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[14:19] <brycec> So the only difference between lolroot.ca and cacert.org is that one wants to be taken seriously?
[14:20] <brycec> (Re: up_the_irons's tweet just now)
[14:25] <up_the_irons> no idea
[14:26] <up_the_irons> brycec: btw, your ticket didn't get lost, i was just mildly sick for the last couple days; i'm going to work on it now
[14:26] <brycec> Personally I pimp startssl for free, reputable certs.
[14:26] <brycec> Ah thanks up_the_irons and sorry to hear you were sick.
[14:26] <ant> i think cacert didn't publish their private key...
[14:26] <brycec> LIke I said ant, one wants to be taken seriously ;P
[14:26] <up_the_irons> np :)
[14:30] <ant> brycec: good point
[14:30] <ant> Issuer: C=US, ST=CA, L=LOLCA, O=lolroot.ca, OU=lolroot.ca, CN=lolroot.ca/emailAddress=admin@lolroot.ca
[14:30] <ant> lol
[14:31] <mkb> "The world's first self-signed cert authority." Not to nitpick (or rather to nitpick), but they're all self-signed. That's what a CA is.
[14:32] <ant> well, i think they mean authority for self-signed certs (which doesn't make sense either)
[14:34] <mkb> I like how their website doesn't even use their cert.
[14:35] <brycec> why should it? You'd just get an "unrecognized ca" error :p
[14:36] <mkb> Instead I get wrong site, it's signed for *.snorby.org
[14:36] <ant> brycec: not if you properly installed their root cert as trusted (which i strongly recommend ;)
[14:36] <brycec> lolololol
[14:55] <up_the_irons> would anyone be interested in a dedi server with these specs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Poweredge-C1100-1U-2X-XEON-QC-L5520-2-26GHZ-NO-HDD-72GB-DDR3-Tested-/261274072295?
[14:55] <up_the_irons> i'd pop in a 1TB SATA or 120GB SSD
[14:55] <up_the_irons> i'd ask like $200 / mo
[14:55] <up_the_irons> 72GB of RAM!
[14:56] <up_the_irons> brb
[14:56] <toddf> I can only wish I could afford that. kindof pointed that out hoping it would help your virtualization offering remain cost effective, but dedi servers can be nice too ;-)
[14:59] <avj> wonder how loud those buggers are
[15:09] <up_the_irons> toddf: yes, i think i understood that, but i find it more straightforward and quicker to sell as dedi's if there are any takers
[15:09] <up_the_irons> avj: i bet very loud :)
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[16:55] <hazardous> wtf
[16:55] <hazardous> 1000 units available?
[16:57] <up_the_irons> srsly
[16:58] <hazardous> where the hell are they pulling those from, alphared?
[16:58] <hazardous> (that is a joke btw)
[17:06] <up_the_irons> lol
[17:18] <_elf> up_the_irons: do you see a lot of dedicated server customers these days? seems like there aren't a lot of reasons left not to virtualize
[17:19] <up_the_irons> _elf: actually yeah, there's still a big market for it.  some want the autonomy of a "house" rather than shared tenancy of an "apartment"
[17:20] <RandalSchwartz> happy dance.  Very last credit card is PAID OFF
[17:20] <_elf> right although a private virtualization solution might also fit the bill there and give them management benefits
[17:20] <RandalSchwartz> no revolving debt!
[17:22] <_elf> used to be that virtualization didn't do disk I/O well (mostly for lack of scheduling) but that is less and less true; you see some pretty high IOPS stuff being virtualized these days
[17:23] <up_the_irons> _elf: well nothing is stopping someone from getting a dedi and using it for virtualization :)  i suspect most do these days
[17:23] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: congrats :)
[17:23] <_elf> ah I see
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[18:12] <hazardous> up_the_irons: i use my dedi for virt :V
[18:12] <hazardous> a looot of virt
[18:13] <up_the_irons> :)
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[20:17] <hazardous> hey up_the_irons ever plan on taking paypal
[20:23] <hazardous> have a customer or two but they seem to be pp only
[20:24] <_elf> seems really fraud prone, and lots of dubious stuff around freezing accounts/funds for recipients
[21:27] <up_the_irons> i want to take it one day but fraud is a problem
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