So the only difference between lolroot.ca and cacert.org is that one wants to be taken seriously? (Re: up_the_irons's tweet just now) no idea brycec: btw, your ticket didn't get lost, i was just mildly sick for the last couple days; i'm going to work on it now Personally I pimp startssl for free, reputable certs. Ah thanks up_the_irons and sorry to hear you were sick. i think cacert didn't publish their private key... LIke I said ant, one wants to be taken seriously ;P np :) brycec: good point Issuer: C=US, ST=CA, L=LOLCA, O=lolroot.ca, OU=lolroot.ca, CN=lolroot.ca/emailAddress=admin@lolroot.ca lol "The world's first self-signed cert authority." Not to nitpick (or rather to nitpick), but they're all self-signed. That's what a CA is. well, i think they mean authority for self-signed certs (which doesn't make sense either) I like how their website doesn't even use their cert. why should it? You'd just get an "unrecognized ca" error :p Instead I get wrong site, it's signed for *.snorby.org brycec: not if you properly installed their root cert as trusted (which i strongly recommend ;) lolololol would anyone be interested in a dedi server with these specs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Poweredge-C1100-1U-2X-XEON-QC-L5520-2-26GHZ-NO-HDD-72GB-DDR3-Tested-/261274072295? i'd pop in a 1TB SATA or 120GB SSD i'd ask like $200 / mo 72GB of RAM! brb I can only wish I could afford that. kindof pointed that out hoping it would help your virtualization offering remain cost effective, but dedi servers can be nice too ;-) wonder how loud those buggers are toddf: yes, i think i understood that, but i find it more straightforward and quicker to sell as dedi's if there are any takers avj: i bet very loud :) wtf 1000 units available? srsly where the hell are they pulling those from, alphared? (that is a joke btw) lol up_the_irons: do you see a lot of dedicated server customers these days? seems like there aren't a lot of reasons left not to virtualize _elf: actually yeah, there's still a big market for it. some want the autonomy of a "house" rather than shared tenancy of an "apartment" happy dance. Very last credit card is PAID OFF right although a private virtualization solution might also fit the bill there and give them management benefits no revolving debt! used to be that virtualization didn't do disk I/O well (mostly for lack of scheduling) but that is less and less true; you see some pretty high IOPS stuff being virtualized these days _elf: well nothing is stopping someone from getting a dedi and using it for virtualization :) i suspect most do these days RandalSchwartz: congrats :) ah I see up_the_irons: i use my dedi for virt :V a looot of virt :) hey up_the_irons ever plan on taking paypal have a customer or two but they seem to be pp only seems really fraud prone, and lots of dubious stuff around freezing accounts/funds for recipients i want to take it one day but fraud is a problem