[00:59] *** first2know has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:05] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [03:34] *** wak has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [03:45] *** avj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [04:20] *** brachiation has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:25] *** brachiation has joined #arpnetworks [04:53] mnathani: well for one thing you wouldn't be using document.write ideally? [04:53] define 'including content fro another site into my page' [04:53] you would need to be allowed to access the resource via CORS [04:53] if you wanted it to be done via js [04:56] I typically use copy and paste to include content from other sites on mine. [05:10] *** mamtina has joined #arpnetworks [05:11] *** mamtina has left "Leaving" [05:11] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [05:23] you either have to do server side scraping or just copy and apste if it's a third party site you have no control over [05:54] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [06:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [06:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [06:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:18] *** mikeputnam has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [07:18] *** jbergstroem has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [07:29] *** mikeputnam has joined #arpnetworks [07:31] *** jbergstroem has joined #arpnetworks [08:20] *** avj has joined #arpnetworks [08:23] *** anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks [08:24] ~# uptime [08:24] 08:25:17 up 257 days, 1:38, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [08:24] * anisfarhana loves arpnetworks! :* [08:25] good job, but you're computer isn't doing anything according to your load average :P [08:25] Indeed. [08:25] Just running few light services. [08:25] your* [08:26] I can't believe I did that... [08:26] that's about all mine does [08:27] I am wondering what kind of restrictions for arpnetworks. [08:29] not really any restrictions [08:29] as long asi t's like sane and legal or whatever [08:29] 08:26:31 up 203 days, 15:39, 2 users, load average: 1.84, 1.67, 1.66 [08:30] lol [08:36] 09:36:08 up 18:46, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 [08:37] i think my highest loaded box is my kvm server at home [08:37] load average: 0.08, 0.19, 0.32 [08:37] hahaha [08:37] eth0 eth1 bond0 [08:37] KB/s in KB/s out KB/s in KB/s out KB/s in KB/s out [08:37] 215.23 1266.99 0.00 0.00 215.23 1266.99 [08:37] this is entirely text traffic :( [08:45] :o [08:45] i still want to know what kind of service you run [08:49] he ships ... text. :) [09:04] well, technically just bytes [09:04] unless gzipped text counts as text [09:07] thats weird [09:07] i just tried to grab some f/oss thing from sourceforge [09:07] it gave me a malware installer [09:08] Not much restrictions..probably i can test and try the exploits on it? [09:08] :D [09:08] Scanning another host. [09:08] He he he [09:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [09:09] hazardous, a "malware" installer or a real malware installer? not that's there's a difference but I read that sourceforge is trying to make money by replacing popular windows app downloads with their own installers that bundle toolbars [09:11] a "shitware" installer, then [09:12] Was that f/oss software Synergy? [09:12] The first project I encountered with a shitware installer ^ [09:13] but yeah you probably should know my feelings about tthings like this [09:13] i treat it as malware because that's exactly what it is [09:14] sure, i am one of the few that actually reads what i'm clicking [09:14] but many people don't, and that's taking advantage [09:14] opt out instead of opt in [09:15] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [09:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [09:20] I imagine those feelings are shared by all consumers... I mean, who REALLY wants the Ask.com toolbar bundled with Java??? [09:20] "Oh great, a toolbar for a website I've never heard of!" (Okay, I have heard of it... But it's so irrelevant and obsolete, it's hilarious) [09:21] brycec, "consumers" don't even know. they can't tell the difference between the toolbar and the browser chrome [09:22] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:23] I'm not sure about that... I mean those toolbars are a lot like a colonoscopy. Are you suggesting that "consumers" can't tell the difference between anal probing and a sunny day in the park? [09:23] oh they know it got worse; just not why [09:23] just that computers get slower over time [09:25] Good thing Internet Explorer is playing police and proactively suggesting that you disable toolbars and addins every time you launch IE (complete with some basic profiling) [09:29] I imagine those feelings are shared by all consumers... I mean, who REALLY wants the Ask.com toolbar bundled with Java??? [09:29] have you noticed their word use too [09:29] people might not know what ask or java are [09:29] but it says [09:29] WE RECOMMEND ASK TOOLBAR [09:29] WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU INSTALL GOOGLE CHROME WITH TOOLBAR X [09:29] "Oh, well if it's recommended" [09:29] another thing [09:29] SF recently started offering projects the ability to add the crapware for some kind of incentive [09:30] that pisses me off is tickboxes [09:30] such a shame [09:30] like one that's 'install shitware' one that's 'i agree' and one that's 'change my homepage to shitware.com' [09:30] and if you untick i agree [09:30] it greys out all 3 [09:30] but keep two of the three ticked [09:31] I moved off SF long, long ago and I have zero regrets. (To Google Code... which I then moved off from and on to Github because GC is, well, kinda shitty) [09:31] Wow, fun [09:31] "trap the user" [09:31] brycec: it actually won't install it w/o the i agree [09:31] but it still ticks me off to the point [09:31] where i tick i agree [09:31] then untick all 3 in propero rder [09:32] i think my best memory was this one application that had a separate toolbar window [09:32] but it later turns out that [09:32] to install the application, you had to REQUIRE a toolbar anyways, in the REAL app's EULA [09:32] and it installed a different one [09:32] if you agreed, it would install both [09:33] These projects can't be making more than hundreths of a cent on each install :/ [09:33] It's really not worth pissing off users, is it? [09:33] US installs are like 0.10 or something? [09:34] loads in .br or .in or whatever are like 0.01 or less [09:34] wow, $.10 really? That can add up on a popular project... 50 downloads and I've got lunch. [09:36] installs in VM's don't count [09:36] to prevent "fraud" [09:36] lol nice, and smart. Sadly they still do install in a VM. [09:36] no, i mean [09:36] the toolbar will install [09:36] yeah [09:36] but ytou won't get credited for it [09:36] which is just lmfao [09:37] (Yeah I understood) [09:37] Nice that my installs don't count... but they wouldn't anyways because I un-check that shit. (All my Windows are in VMs) [09:46] *** first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:47] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [09:52] *** first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:03] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:21] hey anyone use bsd here [10:21] my webserver is randomly spitting out kqueue_add: fdpoll is full ! [10:30] oh [10:30] dammit [10:30] i keep runing out of descriptors or something [10:50] Hmm does anyone in #arpnetworks/@bsdvps use BSD? :P [10:50] And yes that's what that message means [10:50] and there's a sysctl to up the limit (but as usual, figure out why you're hitting a normally-sane limit) [10:52] brycec: well around 14000 simultaneous webserver hits per second might do it [10:52] if that's what i'm guessing [10:53] In theory those hits would end up in RAM [10:53] increased from 11k to 50k, going to see how that pans out i guess [10:53] none of it is static content [10:53] every single pageload is generated [10:53] fastcgi? [10:53] fastcgi [10:53] Hmmm [10:53] cherokee / nginx + fastcgi + redis + riak [10:54] Ideally fastcgi has loaded the source file and just re-runs/evaluates for each request [10:54] But that's "ideally" [10:54] I have never real-world tested t his [10:54] yeah but the source file itself [10:54] does network access itself [10:54] against multiple keyval stores [10:55] both localhost and across the network [10:55] that may possibly be why? [10:55] Hm, could be, actually. [10:55] I would hate to see netstat :p [10:55] $ netstat -an | wc -l [10:55] 22027 [10:55] other machine [10:55] $ netstat -an | wc -l [10:55] 11840 [10:57] maybe i should acutally learn bsd instead of treating it like a linux [11:04] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) [11:05] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [11:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [11:25] *** phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:25] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [11:58] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [12:14] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [14:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [14:34] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:22] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:41] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:44] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:00] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:19] 11 [17:19] sry [17:20] 12 [17:20] notsry [17:51] *** sdkmvx is now known as mkb [17:58] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:02] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) [18:04] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:30] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [18:36] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [19:08] *** d^_^b has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:09] *** d^_^b has joined #arpnetworks [19:10] *** milki has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:10] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [20:58] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:00] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [21:01] hazardous: mike-burns : I am attempting to capture both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses of clients that visit my website with a dual stack configuration and display both IP addresses [21:02] Should be pretty simple [21:03] you would think, but I have been struggling with it since yesterday [21:04] what's your approach so far [21:04] I got the v6 address using server environment variable [21:04] for the v4 address, I setup a v4 only domain that displays the v4 address [21:04] where ivp4only only has an A record (forcing the client to access using ipv4), and ipv6only has only an AAAA record (forcing the client to access using ipv6) [21:05] what brycec said is the right way to do it [21:05] (the ?uniquetoken is so you can pair the visitor, it's generated dynamically when loading www.site.com) [21:05] but it sounds like you're trying that route [21:05] thanks gizmoguy [21:05] I would like the ip to show up within the source code not like coming from a different resource [21:06] mnathani: in the source for www.site.com?? [21:06] This site does it really well and fast : http://test-ipv6.com/ [21:06] oh, you want to show it on the page? [21:06] ajax call to ipv4only.site.com ipv6only.site.com [21:06] I don't think that's even possible... Since the server, on page load, only knows the connection it's serving. [21:06] where those websites just print the IP that hit them [21:06] gizmoguy++ [21:07] user goes to the v6 enabled site and both ip addresses get displayed [21:07] (Using bypasses CSRF/XSS headaches, and you could just generate an image with the IP with GD) [21:07] mnathani: test-ipv6 does it via ajax calls [21:07] (so many ajax calls...) [21:07] hehe yeah [21:07] "124 requests" [21:07] If an image can come through, then what prevents an external javascript getting loaded [21:08] you can't load javascript in an image tag? [21:08] I am open to javascript methods [21:08] you can point at javascript, but it wouldn't be evaluated [21:08] Something like : [21:08] And when src'ing javascript, there are safeguards in place to prevent cross-site scripting attacks [21:08] @wiki XSS [21:09] oh right, BryceBot isn't in this channel :p [21:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting [21:09] iframe? :P [21:10] Basically, src'ing javascript from domains other than the one being visited is a major IV/security issue. You can configure exceptions, but it's a PITA [21:10] gizmoguy++ [21:10] clever, and hideous :) [21:10] There is JSONP though [21:10] that's mostly how my programming style is described :) [21:11] (In fact, JSONP is how test-ipv6 handles the subdomain accesses [21:13] * brycec wanders off to get some supper [21:13] * gizmoguy fights snmpd with a stick [22:20] * brycec hands gizmoguy a bigger stick, with spikes on the end [22:32] i got it working in the end [22:32] hrm, why is it 5.30pm on a friday and I don't have a beer in my hand yet :( [22:32] I have one box where snmpd just starts eating CPU like there's no tomorrow :( [22:33] gizmoguy: because you're waiting for the rest of the world to catch up\ [22:33] lol [22:33] people should stop asking me to do work ;P [22:33] a user's desktop stopped working at 4.45pm [22:33] gizmoguy: Play, have fun, whatever you do just don't work. [22:33] on a friday? sounds like Monday's problem [22:33] fixed that by 4.58pm [22:34] but then I had someone else come ask how to build a cloud infrastructure [22:34] that took at least 30 mins to solve [22:34] I think I freaked him out a little, he was wanting to do the minimal amount of work required [22:34] kinda like askign "How do I Internet?" [22:34] haha yeah [22:35] the original question was "how do I install a VM in my new openstack I just built" [22:35] * brycec facedesks [22:35] my answer turned into, install/build a provisioning system, learn puppet, write puppet, click lots of buttons, done [22:35] btw theforeman is the best provisioning system I've ever used [22:36] i've recently replaced my job with it [22:36] ( I didn't tell my boss yet ) [22:36] lol