mike-burns: Or whether they can look up the weather on their phone?
up_the_irons: stumble of words
ah yeah, "Slurred speech: Ask the patient to repeat a simple sentence such as “The sky is blue in Cincinnati.”"
brachiation: just make sure to move around every once in awhile.
computers have drastically lowered the age for stroke.
and most other types of clot.
and people pulling 3-4 day marathons when an xbox game comes out.
-: brachiation does some jumping jacks.
up_the_irons: brachiation: yeah no kidding
-: CaZe ran 40 miles last week
brachiation: that's a lot of miles.
i ran 40 this years, i think.
up_the_irons: damn
i walked 263 miles on my treadmill desk last year :)
CaZe: I'll reach 1000 by Thanksgiving.
brachiation: up_the_irons: you walked a mile a day?
up_the_irons: but haven't used it a whole lot lately (gotta change that)
brachiation: or close to it
up_the_irons: brachiation: yeah it was usually between 1 and 1.5 miles
brachiation: is there such thing as a podcast or similar for learning administration or programming?
that would make me jog every day.
i guess code would be almost impossible to explain in words.
i listen to linux podcasts here and there, but most of them are very informative. they just like to talk about version x.y of GNOME is out and these are the features!
up_the_irons: coding is like sports, you don't get good by reading books, you get good by playing
brachiation: uninformative*
up_the_irons: yeah true. i need to think of some way to practice though.
up_the_irons: create an app
brachiation: i come up blank when i want to think of something within my knowledge.
CaZe: Running is really more like meditating anyway. You shouldn't try to do something else to distract you from it.
up_the_irons: you need to think of something you'd like to use yourself, and make it for yourself, then put it on github and let other people use it
-: up_the_irons nods
brachiation: i got it! flashlight app!
android market could use another one of those :)
up_the_irons: lol
brachiation: android could use a better way to handle ssh keys.
up_the_irons: yep
brachiation: just replied to your email about ipmi mac's
brachiation: i think one is off
brachiation: can u double check?
brachiation: sure
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up_the_irons: tnx
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brachiation: i juste checked and the number i sent by email is correct.
up_the_irons: damn
maybe loose cable
brachiation: can u send me the pic?
brachiation: sending pic now.
up_the_irons: tnx
gotta run, bbl
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RandalSchwartz: I really need someone to look at kvr05.
must be noisy neighbor
even after reboot, sluggier than hell
up_the_irons: you looking in to this?
getting those WRITE_DMA timeouts that happen when the disk is being beat up
(although not by me :)
-: RandalSchwartz sighs
toddf: up_the_irons: just curious, did you reply to my question about v6 clarification? I seem to recall I've futzed email in the past and didn't get your replies, so I begin to wonder if I don't have something futzed again...
RandalSchwartz: still no action. I would hope alarm bells would have already gone off
it's taking over two minutes to invoke "df -h"
loadav is only 0.07
disk is bottleneck
toddf: I'm sure once up_the_irons is able to do something he will
the other possibility is that the raid is degraded and someone else is doing a level of io that would normally be ok
try another possibility: s/degraded/rebuilding/
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RandalSchwartz: well, I'll just have to be upset for a bit longer… time for me to go fix my laptop (also broken this morning)
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mercutio: hmm
load average usually goes upw hen disk the bottle neck
it could be something like a hung nfs mount
that'd be the usual suspect when df takes forever and load average isn't high
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up_the_irons: it was a failed disk in the raid 10, so controller turned off write cache
(i have since replaced the drive and the raid is rebuilding)
toddf: ah, I guessed rightly!
up_the_irons: :)
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mercutio: i wonder why load average didnt' go up
sdkmvx: average number of runnable processes didn't go up
other than what would happen due to stuff running slower
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mnathani: Anyone use dropbox with their linux server?
twobithacker: I use btsync with my freebsd server, is that close enough?
mnathani: I was curious what their experience was like with dropbox on the command line
hazardous: dislike
it's not bad but it's not particularly light on cpu or i/o
additionally, requires root
+ it seems to be accessing way more than it should be [;)]
mnathani: hazardous: I am always sceptical of installing something that is not open source
hazardous: it's fairly e asy to set up but what i dislike is that it wants root
and will run as root too
like honestly, i don't mind backup software, but there should be no reason it requires that
i would rather run it in userspace
and/or do cron syncs
mnathani: Rather than run as a daemon thats always running?
hazardous: kind of depends on your use case i guess
i don't need instantaneous sync upon dropping it in a folder, 1 minute resolution is fine for me
twobithacker: btsync doesn't require root, but it is closed source still
I'm surprised dropbox uses a lot of CPU, I thought it was using epoll or ievent to monitor things, which should be pretty light
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brycec: mnathani: I use Dropbox pretty exclusively command-line only, though it's still on my desktop. (I just mean that my access to it, and manipulation is commandline)
And short answer is: it works fine. Obviously it's just a folder like anything else. And for Dropbox-y things like fetching the public url, there's dropbox (ex: dropbox puburl Dropbox/screenshot/stuff.jpg)
mnathani: Do you recommend it as a backup / file synchronization tool?
brycec: Generally, yeah
I mean, it works for me...
I realize not everyone looks kindly upon it, fears security, etc
But it gets the job done.
<-- long-time Dropbox user
mnathani: Do you do selective synchronization, or perhaps use different accounts to share different folders for different servers / desktops?
brycec: Selective sync, absolutely. Just stupid to push all 10Gb around, especially on a VPS with a 10GB disk :p
But otherwise, just my one account. Oh, and two-factor.
*two-factor auth
mnathani: Is it easy to enable selective sync on command line Dropbox?
brycec: dropbox exclude...
iirc
mnathani: How do you feel about it requiring root privileges? (As per hazardous)
brycec: wat???
It doesn't...
-: brycec reads back
brycec: Yeah no, doesn't require root hazardous.
Perhaps he's thinking of to install, but even then... it can be run from $HOME
mnathani: what distro do you run it on
brycec: Arch
mnathani: Is that kind of like CentOS ?
brycec: I've run it on Debian and CentOS in the past
no
archlinux.org
Oh and I've run it on Gentoo too.
(Not to mention I've used the iOS and Android clients, and used it on Windows and OSX)
mike-burns: It's more like CentOS than like VMS.
brycec: haha
But it's not a derivative of any other distro, per-se
mnathani: does it have its own implementation of say .rpm or .deb files / apt-get and yum
brycec: (Doesn't use yum/rpm as all RHEL/CentOS/SL do, or APT/deb as Ubuntu/Debian/Mint do... It's Linux and uses pacman for package management)
(^^ No, I didn't write that in 1 second, was already answering your question :P)
mnathani: Whats the popularity / user base like compared to the rpm and deb based distros?
brycec: Anyways, back to my point, my usage is almost entirely on the desktop, so I have the GUI to configure things (notable: selective sync) if I needed. But 99% of my interaction with Dropbox is just opening files, or saving files in a folder... and that's no different than any other folder, because it's just a regular folder (monitored by a program). The other .9% is my screenshot script that saves screenshots to ~/Dropbox/Public/, runs ...
... "dropbox puburl $pathtoimage", and throws that url into my clipboard via xclip. The files I store in Dropbox are simply files I'd like to have wherever I sit down (eg dotfiles), as well as a "filing cabinet" of sorts, a single repository for me to file important stuffs.
mnathani: Um, I'd say that, like most rolling-distro crowds, it's a bit Gentoo-ish, but gentrifying over the last couple of years.
mike-burns: Yes but how long is the neckbeard on its users?
mnathani: lol mike-burns
brycec: peachfuzz
sidenode: Among the Linuxes, I'm guessing longest-to-shortest, would be: LFS, Slackware, Debian, SuSE/RHEL, Ubuntu.
(Oh - Arch between RHEL and Ubuntu, along with Gentoo)
mike-burns: I've built LFS quite a few times in the past three years.
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