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RandalSchwartz: quiet day
brycec: It's been extremely quiet for the last 4 days or so
Which I'm taking as "no news is good news"
toddf: purring right along as far as I'm concerned
mikeputnam: ===fortune===
If you are a fatalist, what can you do about it?
-- Ann Edwards-Duff
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up_the_irons: support has been lighter than usual too... i think people are enjoying summer and not working on their gear as much
RandalSchwartz: summer? it's summer outside? :)
up_the_irons: it sure is here...
forecast said 95F :)
RandalSchwartz: only 74 over here
mike-burns: 61F here.
jpalmer: I'm leaving for san francisco tomorrow!
FreeSpencer: how well does arp handle DDoS? I don't want my vps to be down due to somebody else getting ddos
jpalmer: they "handle" it by having a strict zero tolerance policy. you get DDoS, you don't have an account.
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-: up_the_irons nods
up_the_irons: if someone *else* gets DDoS'd, however, FreeSpencer is asking about collateral damage, I believe. We put a lot of work into minimizing that. Big pipes in the network to handle it and host settings that are very fine tuned not to give out under a DDoS
FreeSpencer: Ahhh, so the client is kicked out then?
brycec: Blasted $OtherVPSProvider just gave me 7 hours notice that they'd be migrating my VPS... In theory it should come back up fine (though there are a lot of things I must manually restart), but I'm annoyed at the notice. And losing 564 days uptime.
toddf: brycec: you get less notice if hardware has issues with arp, so don't consider that a unique event; hardware issues are not going to be predictable regardless. that they gave you 7 hours notice seems very nice
brycec: I understand hardware issues == no notice.
But I think 24 hours is a good courtesy
eg. What if I'm somewhere in eurasia and asleep when my pager goes off because my VPS is offline. If I'd had 24 hours notice, I could schedule my own downtime.
hazardous: up_the_irons: that is because FreeSpencer is a well known minecraft host and massive ddos magnet that got kicked out of webnx, AIS, gorillaservers and corporatecolo
FreeSpencer: False
:(
hazardous: pffft you know AIS hates you
FreeSpencer: Nope
Where is AIS?
brachiation: Does anyone know if an NTP server is needed for VPS?
hazardous: no
you can act as a ntp client
brycec: $othervpsprovider somehow managed to send me a promo ad that made it to gmail inbox, and a downtime maint notification that made it to spambox. that was interesting to find
brycec: lol hazardous
hazardous: the weird part was they were both sent from the same ip, had the same headers and whatnot
conspiracy!
brycec: I would've migrated off $othervpsprovider long ago if it weren't for a discount that made them nearly competitive with ARP. And time, if I had the time....
up_the_irons: hazardous: wow, even corporatecolo? i used to run that shop... hard to get kicked outta there ;)
hazardous: hahahah
up_the_irons: what happened to them anyways
they're selling 26gb ram dedis for $49
like, when did that happen
FreeSpencer: I heard corporatecolo was very stringent on DDoS
up_the_irons: hazardous: are they? thought they only did colo
FreeSpencer: Like once and done
hazardous: nope, they do 40-50usd 26gb ram dedis
it really weirded me out when i first saw it
FreeSpencer: Its under a really crappy brand name
hazardous: ^
at least they subsidaried it
but in the same ad they still say we are corporate colo, so
up_the_irons: hmmm... don't see it on their site
FreeSpencer: needaserver.net
up_the_irons: maybe a customer of theirs?
hazardous: needaserver.net
they've been aggressively advertising it lately
like within th last month or two ,poped out of nowhere
FreeSpencer: And it uses an ugly ass template too
hazardous: they bought those dumb WHT corporate and premium mebmerships to post more often too
and picked out all the bonuses
like yellow background, big text, bold text on thread title
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up_the_irons: looks to be a customer of theirs. the pics are indeed the corpcolo data center.
FreeSpencer: Its posted on WHT by the same person who posts corporate colo ads
up_the_irons: ah interesting
-: up_the_irons shrugs
hazardous: registrant email is victor@corporatecolo.com
that being said i also thoguht they only did colo
brycec: (lots of text copy/pasted between corporatecolo.com and needaserver.net)
It would make sense that they would expand into other related markets... And to do so under a different name makese sense
up_the_irons: yeah true
stevenc: up_the_irons do you have any ssd's in stock
up_the_irons: stevenc: yes
LOL
stevenc: haha
up_the_irons: i have 3x 120GB Samsumg 840 Pro's
-: brycec figures "aisle 3" and "ssd" sound similar enough
up_the_irons: and i think 2x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's are at the data center loading dock right now (gonna pick 'em up later)
-: hazardous pushes a cart down hot aisle, throwing random gear into it
up_the_irons: lol
stevenc: thx up_the_irons
hazardous: hi steven
up_the_irons: np
hazardous: when'd you get in here :o
<3
stevenc: mmm
brycec: August 9th
(according to my logs)
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bmacs: Is there someone in here with ARP that can give me a price quote on 1U of colo at the core site Annex building? You didn't answer the phone just now.
up_the_irons: bmacs: how much power is required? are you local or remote?
bmacs: I'm local. and the server in not crazy full of drives or anything… so prob 1A - 1.5A for the power
up_the_irons: looks like you might be local judging by ip...
bmacs: haha, yes.
up_the_irons: well, truth be told, we're basically out of colo space
brycec: Just stack it on top of the cabinet... What's the worst that could happen? :^)
up_the_irons: bmacs: is there a particular reason you wanted to be in the annex building?
(just wondering)
bmacs: Yeah… I'm currently in it with another provider, but they are losing their lease and want to move me an hour away
Do you guys have space in other buildings?
(in DTLA)
brycec: Is this the building? (Just curious) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Annex
up_the_irons: bmacs: lol, is it Syminet? I usually referred colo inquiries to them, b/c they had the space and I didn't
bmacs: no, just in coresite
brycec: 900 N. Alameda
brycec: yup that's the one
bmacs: lol, yes. it is syminet.
I think I actually heard of you guys form Mark.
up_the_irons: lol
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bmacs: up_the_irons: Is there someone else in coresite or DTLA that you recommend I look at for colo?
up_the_irons: bmacs: Phyber: http://www.phyber.com/services/hosting/#colocation
bmacs: they are down the hall from me. i have some fiber to them too, so theoretically i could even sell you bandwidth, haha
bmacs: Thanks. I'll check them out.
up_the_irons: np!
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robonerd: how can i generate 0 or 1 randomly please?
(in c)
RandalSchwartz: int(rand(2)) I think
been a while since I coded C
no wait. rand doesn't take an arg
int(2 * rand())
robonerd: 0 or 1?
nvm
RandalSchwartz: oh - you should be using random instead... hold on
yes - that makes 0 or 1
robonerd: which?
RandalSchwartz: it's a random float from 0 to 1.99999999
int(2 * rand())
that'll work
but let me see what it says on the random man page
oh wait... not like Perl. it returns an int
darn it :)
"man 3 random". The info is there
ahh. int((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2)
just did a bit of the ol google
the RAND_MAX does the right scaling
robonerd: rand() % 2 worked, why?
RandalSchwartz: it's bad
robonerd: why
RandalSchwartz: the low bit isn't very random-ish
you need to grab the higher bits
they're a lot more random
robonerd: ok so offer improvement?
RandalSchwartz: int((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2)
I did
oops... missing paren
int(((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2)
... http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/random.html
... The quality of rand() on most systems is not that good; in particular the low bits can follow a short cyclical pattern, or there can be dependencies between the bits
this is stuff I learned 30 years ago :)
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RandalSchwartz: robonerd - did that work?
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RandalSchwartz: and... we'll never know
since robonerd is treating this as a help desk, and not just a chat room where we do in fact return to say "thank you, that worked".
brycec: heh
RandalSchwartz: "kids these days!"
robonerd: i kept using my code which worked
thx for trying to help me though
:)
RandalSchwartz: which code was yours?
if that % 2 thing, that's *not* working
and if you accept that as working, I worry for the state of programming in general.
s/worry/weep/
robonerd: k
RandalSchwartz: Well... that says it all. :)
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brachiation: when do we get graphene cpu's that run at 400+ GHz?
up_the_irons: :)
brachiation: the cage looks great, btw, thanks for keeping it nice for me :)
brycec: Really getting cheesed off about $OtherVPSProvider - they said they'd start maintenance an hour ago. Grr
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brycec: Thanks for not being like that, ARP!
up_the_irons: :)
brachiation: up_the_irons: no problem. i tried to clean up the pizza and soda mess that I made in cabinet 5 the other day as best as i could.
i might have disconnected a few cables trying to get cheese out of the server vents, though.
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up_the_irons: brachiation: the monster chassis is downstairs. we'll install it soon.
don't think i wanna even drag it up here w/o help
brachiation: are you at the data center this very moment??
up_the_irons: brachiation: i am indeed
my keycard still worked
brachiation: are you home yet?
brachiation: i just got in a few mins ago.
up_the_irons: brachiation: if you want to do that x-conn, come on over :) i'm going to philipe's for some food..
brachiation: otherwise we can do it next week
brachiation: i can't tonight :(
i'm gonna finish charting my work from today then i have to try and sleep early again.
wife making me do more volunteer work with gibbons.
well, she isn't 'making' me, i still like helping them out.,
up_the_irons: brachiation: ok np
brachiation: you should check the place out sometime, it is fun for the whole family.
up_the_irons: hah cool
hazardous: hi everypony
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robonerd: up_the_irons how do your vps's work for viop services?
voip
i want to launch a communications platform
toddf: robonerd: if you don't stay on long enough to wake me up feel free to dial 4052279094 .. thats an asterisk system terminating that # via voip.ms (with an amazing latency of 0.503ms) ..
s/wake me up/wake my wife up/
seriously though, it works fine for my needs (thats my asterisk + mail system + one openafs server `in one')
and if you are serious about launching a communications platform you should be able to spend $5/mo while you research the vps capabilities at arpnetworks to confirm it works for your needs
otherwise I'd not give you much hope in earning my business
robonerd: lol
due dilligence before laying out cash, that's business 101, but thanks
up_the_irons: robonerd: i heard it works well :)
i don't run any voip myself...
robonerd: ok
does your network traffic go through spy/rape gear?
mike-burns: You mean like "the Internet"?
up_the_irons: lol wut
robonerd: i was just curious at what point our traffic was raped from us
up_the_irons: robonerd: it goes to an access switch, then core router, then to peers / transit
bmacs: but which of those things does the raping?
brycec: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape "the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse."
I don't think that word means what you think it means
up_the_irons: yeah i'm not sure how to answer that
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