[01:52] *** first2know has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:26] *** brachiation is now known as Guest12890 [02:27] *** brachiation has joined #arpnetworks [02:29] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [05:32] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:45] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [06:05] *** alexstanford111 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:12] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:26] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [07:43] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [10:29] *** first2know has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:03] *** brachiation has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:35] quiet day [11:39] It's been extremely quiet for the last 4 days or so [11:39] Which I'm taking as "no news is good news" [11:47] purring right along as far as I'm concerned [12:17] ===fortune=== [12:17] If you are a fatalist, what can you do about it? [12:17] -- Ann Edwards-Duff [13:10] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [14:00] support has been lighter than usual too... i think people are enjoying summer and not working on their gear as much [14:05] summer? it's summer outside? :) [14:08] it sure is here... [14:08] forecast said 95F :) [14:09] only 74 over here [14:10] 61F here. [14:10] I'm leaving for san francisco tomorrow! [14:42] how well does arp handle DDoS? I don't want my vps to be down due to somebody else getting ddos [14:43] they "handle" it by having a strict zero tolerance policy. you get DDoS, you don't have an account. [14:44] *** brachiation has joined #arpnetworks [14:44] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:18] * up_the_irons nods [15:20] if someone *else* gets DDoS'd, however, FreeSpencer is asking about collateral damage, I believe. We put a lot of work into minimizing that. Big pipes in the network to handle it and host settings that are very fine tuned not to give out under a DDoS [15:22] Ahhh, so the client is kicked out then? [15:25] Blasted $OtherVPSProvider just gave me 7 hours notice that they'd be migrating my VPS... In theory it should come back up fine (though there are a lot of things I must manually restart), but I'm annoyed at the notice. And losing 564 days uptime. [15:26] brycec: you get less notice if hardware has issues with arp, so don't consider that a unique event; hardware issues are not going to be predictable regardless. that they gave you 7 hours notice seems very nice [15:26] I understand hardware issues == no notice. [15:26] But I think 24 hours is a good courtesy [15:27] eg. What if I'm somewhere in eurasia and asleep when my pager goes off because my VPS is offline. If I'd had 24 hours notice, I could schedule my own downtime. [15:39] up_the_irons: that is because FreeSpencer is a well known minecraft host and massive ddos magnet that got kicked out of webnx, AIS, gorillaservers and corporatecolo [15:40] False [15:40] :( [15:40] pffft you know AIS hates you [15:40] Nope [15:40] Where is AIS? [15:41] Does anyone know if an NTP server is needed for VPS? [15:41] no [15:41] you can act as a ntp client [15:41] brycec: $othervpsprovider somehow managed to send me a promo ad that made it to gmail inbox, and a downtime maint notification that made it to spambox. that was interesting to find [15:42] lol hazardous [15:42] the weird part was they were both sent from the same ip, had the same headers and whatnot [15:43] conspiracy! [15:43] I would've migrated off $othervpsprovider long ago if it weren't for a discount that made them nearly competitive with ARP. And time, if I had the time.... [15:43] hazardous: wow, even corporatecolo? i used to run that shop... hard to get kicked outta there ;) [15:43] hahahah [15:43] up_the_irons: what happened to them anyways [15:43] they're selling 26gb ram dedis for $49 [15:44] like, when did that happen [15:44] I heard corporatecolo was very stringent on DDoS [15:44] hazardous: are they? thought they only did colo [15:44] Like once and done [15:44] nope, they do 40-50usd 26gb ram dedis [15:44] it really weirded me out when i first saw it [15:44] Its under a really crappy brand name [15:44] ^ [15:44] at least they subsidaried it [15:44] but in the same ad they still say we are corporate colo, so [15:44] hmmm... don't see it on their site [15:44] needaserver.net [15:44] maybe a customer of theirs? [15:45] needaserver.net [15:45] they've been aggressively advertising it lately [15:45] like within th last month or two ,poped out of nowhere [15:45] And it uses an ugly ass template too [15:45] they bought those dumb WHT corporate and premium mebmerships to post more often too [15:45] and picked out all the bonuses [15:45] like yellow background, big text, bold text on thread title [15:45] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) [15:46] looks to be a customer of theirs. the pics are indeed the corpcolo data center. [15:47] Its posted on WHT by the same person who posts corporate colo ads [15:47] ah interesting [15:47] * up_the_irons shrugs [15:47] registrant email is victor@corporatecolo.com [15:47] that being said i also thoguht they only did colo [15:49] (lots of text copy/pasted between corporatecolo.com and needaserver.net) [15:49] It would make sense that they would expand into other related markets... And to do so under a different name makese sense [15:51] yeah true [15:52] up_the_irons do you have any ssd's in stock [15:52] stevenc: yes [15:52] LOL [15:52] haha [15:53] i have 3x 120GB Samsumg 840 Pro's [15:53] * brycec figures "aisle 3" and "ssd" sound similar enough [15:53] and i think 2x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro's are at the data center loading dock right now (gonna pick 'em up later) [15:54] * hazardous pushes a cart down hot aisle, throwing random gear into it [15:54] lol [15:54] thx up_the_irons [15:54] hi steven [15:54] np [15:54] when'd you get in here :o [15:54] <3 [15:55] mmm [15:55] August 9th [15:55] (according to my logs) [16:00] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [16:04] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:05] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:06] *** brachiation has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:07] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:11] *** hazardous has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [16:31] *** brachiation has joined #arpnetworks [16:36] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:37] *** bmacs has joined #arpnetworks [16:40] Is there someone in here with ARP that can give me a price quote on 1U of colo at the core site Annex building? You didn't answer the phone just now. [16:41] bmacs: how much power is required? are you local or remote? [16:42] I'm local. and the server in not crazy full of drives or anything… so prob 1A - 1.5A for the power [16:42] looks like you might be local judging by ip... [16:42] haha, yes. [16:43] well, truth be told, we're basically out of colo space [16:43] Just stack it on top of the cabinet... What's the worst that could happen? :^) [16:44] bmacs: is there a particular reason you wanted to be in the annex building? [16:44] (just wondering) [16:45] Yeah… I'm currently in it with another provider, but they are losing their lease and want to move me an hour away [16:45] Do you guys have space in other buildings? [16:45] (in DTLA) [16:46] Is this the building? (Just curious) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Annex [16:47] bmacs: lol, is it Syminet? I usually referred colo inquiries to them, b/c they had the space and I didn't [16:47] bmacs: no, just in coresite [16:47] brycec: 900 N. Alameda [16:47] brycec: yup that's the one [16:48] lol, yes. it is syminet. [16:49] I think I actually heard of you guys form Mark. [16:53] lol [16:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:01] up_the_irons: Is there someone else in coresite or DTLA that you recommend I look at for colo? [17:03] bmacs: Phyber: http://www.phyber.com/services/hosting/#colocation [17:03] bmacs: they are down the hall from me. i have some fiber to them too, so theoretically i could even sell you bandwidth, haha [17:04] Thanks. I'll check them out. [17:04] np! [17:07] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:28] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:34] how can i generate 0 or 1 randomly please? [17:34] (in c) [17:38] int(rand(2)) I think [17:38] been a while since I coded C [17:38] no wait. rand doesn't take an arg [17:38] int(2 * rand()) [17:38] 0 or 1? [17:38] nvm [17:38] oh - you should be using random instead... hold on [17:38] yes - that makes 0 or 1 [17:39] which? [17:39] it's a random float from 0 to 1.99999999 [17:39] int(2 * rand()) [17:39] that'll work [17:39] but let me see what it says on the random man page [17:39] oh wait... not like Perl. it returns an int [17:40] darn it :) [17:40] "man 3 random". The info is there [17:42] ahh. int((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2) [17:43] just did a bit of the ol google [17:43] the RAND_MAX does the right scaling [17:44] rand() % 2 worked, why? [17:45] it's bad [17:45] why [17:45] the low bit isn't very random-ish [17:46] you need to grab the higher bits [17:46] they're a lot more random [17:46] ok so offer improvement? [17:46] int((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2) [17:46] I did [17:47] oops... missing paren [17:47] int(((double) random() / (double) RAND_MAX) * 2) [17:48] ... http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/random.html [17:48] ... The quality of rand() on most systems is not that good; in particular the low bits can follow a short cyclical pattern, or there can be dependencies between the bits [17:48] this is stuff I learned 30 years ago :) [17:51] *** alexstanford111 has joined #arpnetworks [17:54] robonerd - did that work? [17:57] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:57] and... we'll never know [17:58] since robonerd is treating this as a help desk, and not just a chat room where we do in fact return to say "thank you, that worked". [17:58] heh [18:03] "kids these days!" [18:08] i kept using my code which worked [18:08] thx for trying to help me though [18:08] :) [18:10] which code was yours? [18:10] if that % 2 thing, that's *not* working [18:11] and if you accept that as working, I worry for the state of programming in general. [18:11] s/worry/weep/ [18:15] k [19:16] Well... that says it all. :) [19:47] *** hazardous has joined #arpnetworks [19:49] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [20:49] when do we get graphene cpu's that run at 400+ GHz? [20:51] :) [20:52] brachiation: the cage looks great, btw, thanks for keeping it nice for me :) [20:55] Really getting cheesed off about $OtherVPSProvider - they said they'd start maintenance an hour ago. Grr [20:56] *** HighJinx has quit IRC () [20:56] Thanks for not being like that, ARP! [20:56] :) [20:57] up_the_irons: no problem. i tried to clean up the pizza and soda mess that I made in cabinet 5 the other day as best as i could. [20:57] i might have disconnected a few cables trying to get cheese out of the server vents, though. [20:58] * up_the_irons faints [20:59] brachiation: the monster chassis is downstairs. we'll install it soon. [20:59] don't think i wanna even drag it up here w/o help [21:00] are you at the data center this very moment?? [21:00] brachiation: i am indeed [21:00] my keycard still worked [21:01] brachiation: are you home yet? [21:01] i just got in a few mins ago. [21:03] brachiation: if you want to do that x-conn, come on over :) i'm going to philipe's for some food.. [21:04] brachiation: otherwise we can do it next week [21:04] i can't tonight :( [21:05] i'm gonna finish charting my work from today then i have to try and sleep early again. [21:05] wife making me do more volunteer work with gibbons. [21:06] well, she isn't 'making' me, i still like helping them out., [21:07] brachiation: ok np [21:07] you should check the place out sometime, it is fun for the whole family. [21:09] hah cool [21:17] hi everypony [22:09] *** alexstanford112 has joined #arpnetworks [22:10] *** alexstanford111 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:14] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [22:21] *** tehfink has joined #arpnetworks [22:23] *** fink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:23] *** tehfink is now known as fink [22:23] *** fink has quit IRC (Client Quit) [22:46] *** brycec has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:02] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [23:03] up_the_irons how do your vps's work for viop services? [23:03] voip [23:04] i want to launch a communications platform [23:08] robonerd: if you don't stay on long enough to wake me up feel free to dial 4052279094 .. thats an asterisk system terminating that # via voip.ms (with an amazing latency of 0.503ms) .. [23:08] s/wake me up/wake my wife up/ [23:09] seriously though, it works fine for my needs (thats my asterisk + mail system + one openafs server `in one') [23:10] and if you are serious about launching a communications platform you should be able to spend $5/mo while you research the vps capabilities at arpnetworks to confirm it works for your needs [23:14] otherwise I'd not give you much hope in earning my business [23:20] lol [23:20] due dilligence before laying out cash, that's business 101, but thanks [23:26] robonerd: i heard it works well :) [23:26] i don't run any voip myself... [23:27] ok [23:28] does your network traffic go through spy/rape gear? [23:28] You mean like "the Internet"? [23:29] lol wut [23:29] i was just curious at what point our traffic was raped from us [23:29] robonerd: it goes to an access switch, then core router, then to peers / transit [23:31] but which of those things does the raping? [23:34] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape "the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse." [23:35] I don't think that word means what you think it means [23:39] yeah i'm not sure how to answer that [23:56] *** brycec has quit IRC (Quit: Cheerio, mates.) [23:56] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks