but computers that take pci-x aren't good for home generally http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mellanox-MHES18-XT-Infiniband-HCA-Card-PCIe-PCI-e-Infinihost-III-LX-4x-10Gb-s-/200950204154?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item2ec990c6fa mercutio: Technically pci-x will work just fine in a 32bit PCI slot, you just lose half your bandwidth/speed thdose aaaren't terrible price That's the same card that was on oversale.com a year ago (that I mentioned) brycec: you really don't want to lose your bandwidth/speed with infiniband thhough on single lane pci-e x1 i was only getting 1.6gigabit/sec on 8x i was getting 12 gigabit/sec ahh ok i have 28 four letters xtc err My point was that "computers that take pci-x" are essentially any computer mhgh it's the model before the one that does double speed lanes yeah but pci-e bandwidth can't do gigabit Anyhow, I need to get a new SAS HBA before I invest in Infiniband, no matter how cheap IB is let alone 20 gigabit heh *PCI (cuz pcie does GbE just fine) m1015? pci-e is diff from pci Haven't decided on an hba pcie does gigagbit ethernet fine yeh Exactly. m1015s are good if you reflash them but that can be a pita And PCI-X isn't PCI-e yeah pci-x is on old servers pci-x isn't really bad (and PCIe and PCI-X) (and got really really annoyed with people mixing the terms up_ heh i get confused like pcie 2.0 doesn't mean dual lane and pcie 2.1 actually added some important things but i can't remember what they were but some of the new pcie stuff like msi-x is preetty useful I have no idea, I dropped out of the PCI arena after PCIe 1.x mmm msi these cards are meant to do vmdq but you need to flash with alternate firmware i think and it's buggy :( the newer ones probably better hey what's the most groovy way lately to write web services? not web sites as much as services web sites and mobile apps will communicate? in 2005 i would have used ruby on rails, in 2008 i would have used ruby directly, and now? WarZone: I've put a note in your ticket. It's backhaul from MEL to the exchange. can i get a host to traceroute from where i am to see my link to arpnetworks? you want a traceroute from somewhere to somewhere? i want a host i can trace from where i am robonerd: you want a host on arpnetworks to trace to? yes i'm considering getting a vps www.arpnetworks.com is hosted in the same network as VMs 94 ms ping hm ew, tons of cogent I don't see cogent http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_graph4 maybe the cogent is closer to you? robonerd: where are you located and what network? hawaii 2 72.235.204.2 (72.235.204.2) 37.002 ms 39.130 ms 36.926 ms 3 38.104.210.154 (38.104.210.154) 39.637 ms 39.485 ms 39.300 ms 4 gi2-29.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.117) 91.708 ms gi2-9.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.245) 92.311 ms gi2-21.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.210.157) 88.860 ms 5 te0-7-0-12.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.87.70) 91.375 ms 91.917 ms 90.412 ms 6 ntt.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.30) 88.994 ms 87.965 ms 89.962 ms 7 ae-5.r04.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.220) 91.485 ms 90.021 ms 91.615 ms 8 ge-0-7-0-24.r04.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (129.250.198.186) 91.146 ms * 94.041 ms 9 vl5.s1.lax.arpnetworks.com (208.79.88.129) 91.105 ms 89.976 ms 92.071 ms eek use a pastebin :) er sorry but that route looks decent robonerd: yeah Hawaiian Telecom look like they mostly use cogent, so you should see that in every traceroute :-) http://bgp.he.net/AS36149#_graph4 ^ figures cock snacks ty np if you guys were going to code a network service like let's say a skype server clone, what would you write it in? assembler i'd probably use straight c tbh but recently i've been interested in the D programming langugae on that note, i really want to see something free like skype jabber's pretty much as good as we have atm but it's maybe too decentralised for good adoption heh i run my own Jabber server but I use IRC as my main "IM" protocol heh i run my own jabber server too I'd use Haskell (+ Haskell Cloud, likely) or Erlang. Though really, I'd use Rails + some Python if I wanted to get it to market quickly. python isn't a bad way to go if doing open source stuff Or any license, really. http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/aug/16/man-sentenced-to-13-months-for-having-child-porn/ ...oof