[00:00] but computers that take pci-x aren't good for home generally [00:01] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mellanox-MHES18-XT-Infiniband-HCA-Card-PCIe-PCI-e-Infinihost-III-LX-4x-10Gb-s-/200950204154?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item2ec990c6fa [00:01] mercutio: Technically pci-x will work just fine in a 32bit PCI slot, you just lose half your bandwidth/speed [00:01] thdose aaaren't terrible price [00:01] That's the same card that was on oversale.com a year ago (that I mentioned) [00:01] brycec: you really don't want to lose your bandwidth/speed with infiniband thhough [00:02] on single lane pci-e x1 i was only getting 1.6gigabit/sec [00:02] on 8x i was getting 12 gigabit/sec [00:02] ahh ok [00:02] i have 28 four letters xtc [00:02] err [00:03] My point was that "computers that take pci-x" are essentially any computer [00:03] mhgh [00:03] it's the model before the one that does double speed lanes [00:03] yeah [00:03] but pci-e bandwidth can't do gigabit [00:03] Anyhow, I need to get a new SAS HBA before I invest in Infiniband, no matter how cheap IB is [00:03] let alone 20 gigabit [00:03] heh [00:03] *PCI (cuz pcie does GbE just fine) [00:03] m1015? [00:03] pci-e is diff from pci [00:04] Haven't decided on an hba [00:04] pcie does gigagbit ethernet fine yeh [00:04] Exactly. [00:04] m1015s are good [00:04] if you reflash them [00:04] but that can be a pita [00:04] And PCI-X isn't PCI-e [00:04] yeah [00:04] pci-x is on old servers [00:04] * brycec used to develop PCI cards [00:04] pci-x isn't really bad [00:04] (and PCIe and PCI-X) [00:04] (and got really really annoyed with people mixing the terms up_ [00:04] heh [00:05] i get confused [00:05] like pcie 2.0 doesn't mean dual lane [00:05] and pcie 2.1 actually added some important things [00:05] but i can't remember what they were [00:05] but some of the new pcie stuff like msi-x is preetty useful [00:05] I have no idea, I dropped out of the PCI arena after PCIe 1.x [00:06] mmm msi [00:06] these cards are meant to do vmdq [00:06] but you need to flash with alternate firmware i think [00:06] and it's buggy :( [00:06] the newer ones probably better [02:50] hey what's the most groovy way lately to write web services? not web sites as much as services web sites and mobile apps will communicate? in 2005 i would have used ruby on rails, in 2008 i would have used ruby directly, and now? [03:40] WarZone: I've put a note in your ticket. It's backhaul from MEL to the exchange. [03:40] can i get a host to traceroute from where i am to see my link to arpnetworks? [03:41] you want a traceroute from somewhere to somewhere? [03:41] i want a host i can trace from where i am [03:42] robonerd: you want a host on arpnetworks to trace to? [03:42] yes [03:43] i'm considering getting a vps [03:43] www.arpnetworks.com is hosted in the same network as VMs [03:45] 94 ms ping [03:45] hm [03:46] ew, tons of cogent [03:47] I don't see cogent [03:47] http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_graph4 [03:47] maybe the cogent is closer to you? [03:48] robonerd: where are you located and what network? [03:49] hawaii [03:51] 2 72.235.204.2 (72.235.204.2) 37.002 ms 39.130 ms 36.926 ms [03:51] 3 38.104.210.154 (38.104.210.154) 39.637 ms 39.485 ms 39.300 ms [03:51] 4 gi2-29.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.117) 91.708 ms [03:51] gi2-9.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.245) 92.311 ms [03:51] gi2-21.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.210.157) 88.860 ms [03:51] 5 te0-7-0-12.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.87.70) 91.375 ms 91.917 ms 90.412 ms [03:51] 6 ntt.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.30) 88.994 ms 87.965 ms 89.962 ms [03:51] 7 ae-5.r04.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.220) 91.485 ms 90.021 ms 91.615 ms [03:51] 8 ge-0-7-0-24.r04.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (129.250.198.186) 91.146 ms * 94.041 ms [03:51] 9 vl5.s1.lax.arpnetworks.com (208.79.88.129) 91.105 ms 89.976 ms 92.071 ms [03:51] eek [03:51] use a pastebin :) [03:51] er sorry [03:51] but that route looks decent [03:52] robonerd: yeah Hawaiian Telecom look like they mostly use cogent, so you should see that in every traceroute :-) [03:52] http://bgp.he.net/AS36149#_graph4 [03:52] ^ [03:52] figures [03:52] cock snacks [03:52] ty [03:52] np [03:53] if you guys were going to code a network service like let's say a skype server clone, what would you write it in? [04:04] assembler [04:05] i'd probably use straight c tbh [04:05] but recently i've been interested in the D programming langugae [04:06] on that note, i really want to see something free like skype [04:06] jabber's pretty much as good as we have atm [04:06] but it's maybe too decentralised for good adoption [04:07] heh i run my own Jabber server [04:07] but I use IRC as my main "IM" protocol [04:11] heh [04:11] i run my own jabber server too [04:13] I'd use Haskell (+ Haskell Cloud, likely) or Erlang. Though really, I'd use Rails + some Python if I wanted to get it to market quickly. [04:14] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) [04:15] python isn't a bad way to go if doing open source stuff [04:18] Or any license, really. 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