[00:00] <mercutio> but computers that take pci-x aren't good for home generally
[00:01] <mercutio> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mellanox-MHES18-XT-Infiniband-HCA-Card-PCIe-PCI-e-Infinihost-III-LX-4x-10Gb-s-/200950204154?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item2ec990c6fa
[00:01] <brycec> mercutio: Technically pci-x will work just fine in a 32bit PCI slot, you just lose half your bandwidth/speed
[00:01] <mercutio> thdose aaaren't terrible price
[00:01] <brycec> That's the same card that was on oversale.com a year ago (that I mentioned)
[00:01] <mercutio> brycec: you really don't want to lose your bandwidth/speed with infiniband thhough
[00:02] <mercutio> on single lane pci-e x1 i was only getting 1.6gigabit/sec
[00:02] <mercutio> on 8x i was getting 12 gigabit/sec
[00:02] <mercutio> ahh ok
[00:02] <mercutio> i have 28 four letters xtc
[00:02] <mercutio> err
[00:03] <brycec> My point was that "computers that take pci-x" are essentially any computer
[00:03] <mercutio> mhgh
[00:03] <mercutio> it's the model before the one that does double speed lanes
[00:03] <mercutio> yeah
[00:03] <mercutio> but pci-e bandwidth can't do gigabit
[00:03] <brycec> Anyhow, I need to get a new SAS HBA before I invest in Infiniband, no matter how cheap IB is
[00:03] <mercutio> let alone 20 gigabit
[00:03] <mercutio> heh
[00:03] <brycec> *PCI (cuz pcie does GbE just fine)
[00:03] <mercutio> m1015?
[00:03] <mercutio> pci-e is diff from pci
[00:04] <brycec> Haven't decided on an hba
[00:04] <mercutio> pcie does gigagbit ethernet fine yeh
[00:04] <brycec> Exactly.
[00:04] <mercutio> m1015s are good
[00:04] <mercutio> if you reflash them
[00:04] <mercutio> but that can be a pita
[00:04] <brycec> And PCI-X isn't PCI-e
[00:04] <mercutio> yeah
[00:04] <mercutio> pci-x is on old servers
[00:04] * brycec used to develop PCI cards
[00:04] <mercutio> pci-x isn't really bad
[00:04] <brycec> (and PCIe and PCI-X)
[00:04] <brycec> (and got really really annoyed with people mixing the terms up_
[00:04] <mercutio> heh
[00:05] <mercutio> i get confused
[00:05] <mercutio> like pcie 2.0 doesn't mean dual lane
[00:05] <mercutio> and pcie 2.1 actually added some important things
[00:05] <mercutio> but i can't remember what they were
[00:05] <mercutio> but some of the new pcie stuff like msi-x is preetty useful
[00:05] <brycec> I have no idea, I dropped out of the PCI arena after PCIe 1.x
[00:06] <brycec> mmm msi
[00:06] <mercutio> these cards are meant to do vmdq
[00:06] <mercutio> but you need to flash with alternate firmware i think
[00:06] <mercutio> and it's buggy :(
[00:06] <mercutio> the newer ones probably better
[02:50] <robonerd> hey what's the most groovy way lately to write web services? not web sites as much as services web sites and mobile apps will communicate? in 2005 i would have used ruby on rails, in 2008 i would have used ruby directly, and now?
[03:40] <josephb> WarZone: I've put a note in your ticket. It's backhaul from MEL to the exchange.
[03:40] <robonerd> can i get a host to traceroute from where i am to see my link to arpnetworks?
[03:41] <josephb> you want a traceroute from somewhere to somewhere?
[03:41] <robonerd> i want a host i can trace from where i am
[03:42] <josephb> robonerd: you want a host on arpnetworks to trace to?
[03:42] <robonerd> yes
[03:43] <robonerd> i'm considering getting a vps
[03:43] <josephb> www.arpnetworks.com is hosted in the same network as VMs
[03:45] <robonerd> 94 ms ping
[03:45] <robonerd> hm
[03:46] <robonerd> ew, tons of cogent
[03:47] <josephb> I don't see cogent
[03:47] <josephb> http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_graph4
[03:47] <josephb> maybe the cogent is closer to you?
[03:48] <staticsafe> robonerd: where are you located and what network?
[03:49] <robonerd> hawaii
[03:51] <robonerd>  2  72.235.204.2 (72.235.204.2)  37.002 ms  39.130 ms  36.926 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  3  38.104.210.154 (38.104.210.154)  39.637 ms  39.485 ms  39.300 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  4  gi2-29.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.117)  91.708 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>     gi2-9.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.211.245)  92.311 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>     gi2-21.mag02.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.210.157)  88.860 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  5  te0-7-0-12.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.87.70)  91.375 ms  91.917 ms  90.412 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  6  ntt.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.30)  88.994 ms  87.965 ms  89.962 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  7  ae-5.r04.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.220)  91.485 ms  90.021 ms  91.615 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  8  ge-0-7-0-24.r04.lsanca03.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (129.250.198.186)  91.146 ms *  94.041 ms
[03:51] <robonerd>  9  vl5.s1.lax.arpnetworks.com (208.79.88.129)  91.105 ms  89.976 ms  92.071 ms
[03:51] <staticsafe> eek
[03:51] <staticsafe> use a pastebin :)
[03:51] <robonerd> er sorry
[03:51] <staticsafe> but that route looks decent
[03:52] <josephb> robonerd: yeah Hawaiian Telecom look like they mostly use cogent, so you should see that in every traceroute :-)
[03:52] <josephb> http://bgp.he.net/AS36149#_graph4
[03:52] <staticsafe> ^
[03:52] <robonerd> figures
[03:52] <robonerd> cock snacks
[03:52] <robonerd> ty
[03:52] <josephb> np
[03:53] <robonerd> if you guys were going to code a network service like let's say a skype server clone, what would you write it in?
[04:04] <mercutio> assembler
[04:05] <mercutio> i'd probably use straight c tbh
[04:05] <mercutio> but recently i've been interested in the D programming langugae
[04:06] <mercutio> on that note, i really want to see something free like skype
[04:06] <mercutio> jabber's pretty much as good as we have atm
[04:06] <mercutio> but it's maybe too decentralised for good adoption
[04:07] <staticsafe> heh i run my own Jabber server
[04:07] <staticsafe> but I use IRC as my main "IM" protocol
[04:11] <mercutio> heh
[04:11] <mercutio> i run my own jabber server too
[04:13] <mike-burns> I'd use Haskell (+ Haskell Cloud, likely) or Erlang. Though really, I'd use Rails + some Python if I wanted to get it to market quickly.
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[04:15] <mercutio> python isn't a bad way to go if doing open source stuff
[04:18] <mike-burns> Or any license, really.
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[19:19] <m0unds> http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/aug/16/man-sentenced-to-13-months-for-having-child-porn/ ...oof
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