OCZ Agility 3 vs. Vertex 4, any thoughts?  (i know the 3 is older...)
For what?
fusionio
plz
CaZe: servers
iirc the Agility 3 had higher throughput, but the Vertex 4 (based on the new controller) had higher IOPS
up_the_irons:  vertex4, but samsung better
mercutio: which samsung?
brycec: agility 3 has slower throughput, especially for writes and uncompressable data
up_the_irons: 840 pro atm, but 840 evo is going to be really good when it's here
but even 840 non pro is good
esp if 250gb size
http://www.nextventured.com/2013/samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/
basically 840 has slower write speeds, and less life...
but even the 840 non pro does 530mb/sec read
at 128gb
840 evo has a small SLC area, that's used as write cache etc
mikeputnam: wuht?? LOL
so even the smaller drives can give nice burst performance until you use them heaps
it's fake apparently. nevermind.
until you sustain writes that is
mikeputnam: ah ok.. yeah i was thinking that 1 billion in nickles is way more than 30 trucks
840 non pro is really good value if you want something reliable, cheap, and of ok performance
but if you are doing heaps of writes they could only last 10 yeras or such
and if you do stupid number of writes your'e meant to use hard-disks :)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-review-120gb-250gb-500gb-750gb-1tb-models-tested/4
so 128gb evo has about 7 seconds write cache
vertex 4 does a write amplification reducing technique leading to good write performance
but it's ocz, ..
i have one samsung 128gb, and one samsung 256gb both non pro
and i used to have an agility 3 64gb, and i have a agility 4 128gb
although i gave away the agility 3
cos it's better for windows which has terrible compression
mercutio: i think i'm gonna get some of the 840 pro's.  tnx for the tip.  vertex 4 has good specs, but if you read the "1" reviews on newegg, they all seem to complain about failure after a year
can't have that...
840 pro reviews are amazingly high, even if specs are lower
up_the_irons: heh
up_the_irons: yeah, if you can afford it 840 pro is good choice
or the intel 3500
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-dc-s3500-series.html
the 840 is a bit high at $139 for 128GB, but it's not *that* bad..
but that intel one is expensive most likely
how much is the non pro at that size?
when i was contemplating things i decided to go with 256gb 840 rather than 840 pro 128gb
mercutio: i think like $99
do your systems take 2.5" drives?
cos another noticable thing is that the wdc raptor drives came down in cost a bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136929
$100 for 300gb
10k rpm hard-disk
mercutio: i use icydock converters, so 2.5 isn't an issue
ahh ok
mercutio: the power consumption on the samsungs are siginificantly less than the OCZ (0.069W vs. 2.5W, active)
wtf
0.069 vs 2.5? how the hell does that work?
up_the_irons: yeah
hazardous: dunno
i thought it was more like 0.7watts to 4watts
they have an extra 0 in there i think
but ocz idle power cosunption is good
ah, still..
.69 better than 2.5
lots of people look at active power consumption
but the thing is ssd's go from idle to active really quickly
and back again really quick
idle on ocz is 1.3W
it's the reliability that makes me say no to ocz
btw
with all ssd's you're meant to short stroke for best performance
like not partition 10% of the disk
i perosnally prefer the idea of 2x300gb wdc raptor disks, than 2x128gb ssd's
for a server
for desktop i like ssd more
but i hate running out of space on a server
and the noise not such a concern
i suppose lots of people are keen on ssd's though
there is a demand for ssds, yeah
there are meant to be these adapter things you can get where you turn a pci slot into a rear ssd drive bay
which i reckon could help on some servers that only take two hard-disks to have a ssd cache or such, but bcache etc is still too new for most people to want to touch
mercutio: ah yeah, that's a neat idea
sucks about lavabit.com...
up_the_irons indeed :(
theres another one too, silent circle that closed down proactively
yeah i heard about that too
several customers here had lavabit accounts
really obnoxious when your email goes away :(
indeed very much so
up_the_irons: Let us know if the NSA contacts you about anything. :D
lol
its already too late..
pgp for everyone
except the people who don't use it or won't use it or don't know how to use it
blip!
so..pgp for me and no one else i know
hahaha
pgp ftw!
jesus christ... s1.lax just had a shit fit
doh
Yeah, I got disconnected.
ahh that is why i got alert
argh ruining my perfect uptime like this :(
Hmm.  how did I get off this channel?
but now I'm back
Welcome back!
welcome back RandalSchwartz
jbergstroem: i hope it didn't mess u up too bad
hey up_the_irons
look into opsview.com - upward compatible with nagios, but no more editing of text files
and some nice rrdtools built in
RandalSchwartz: roger
someone had mentioned that b4...
Maybe Neil? :)
Last week's FLOSS Weekly was abou thtat
ah
i use stathat + alerts for similar stuff (but not surveillance). collect it all with collectd or through their api
I run Opsview Community
Good stuff
Not a fan that they took away all the "Community" features
so I'm stuck on an "old version"
As it so happens, I'm trying to write a quick notification handler for Pushover (I say "try" because it turns out that Nagios pushes over 200 environment variables)
opsview is indeed nice