VPS's would not be plural
That would show posession
For example: My VPS's IP is ___
VPSes would technically be a correct pluralization
VPS', you don't do S's
that's for silly people
heh
VPS' is still possessive
i'm just saying in relation to VPS's
Either way is technically correct.
it's illy
silly
S's is for silly gooses
Welcome to the English language
It's a pile of shit.
agreed
i hate the internet
I like the English language.
Whoa what happened to my nick!
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i think irc thinks you're a robot, because bur-one sounds like a robot name
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phlux: m0unds easymac : I use: VPS'.  It ends in S, so an extra "s" is not included to show plurality.
this appears to be a grey area of English
some places say VPS's is just plural, some places say it's possessive, with the plural possessive being VPSs'
which looks wrong to me
VPS's is definitely not plural, IMO, b/c an apostrophe is not used to show plurality.  I suspected people started using that because "VPSs" looked weird; they used the apostrophe as a separator.
Niether VPS' nor VPS's is plural, it only shows possession.  The plural of VPS would either be VPSs or VPSes, but I'm not sure which and don't have a style guide on me at the moment.
The other question is what the plural possessive is.
Again, no style guide on me at the moment
I'm with you brycec
\o
easymac: but "en" is used when the base word ends in "x", hence "boxen".  would not apply in the same way to VPS.
so we should switch to VPB, then VPBen will be appropriate :)
I'm pretty sure that "en" used for more than just words ending in "x" - ask the Germans.
in german, yes. but plurals in german are different then in english (like almost everything else...)
btw..boxen is actually the plural of box in german
and i -- as a non-native speaker -- would go for VPSes
wow...this internet connection here sucks more every day
but aren't acronyms handled specially? or something?
There are some cases where apostrophes are used to denote plurals. Remember to dot your i's and cross your t's. But afaik that doesn't really carry over to acronyms
could VPS = [V]irtual [P]rivate [S]ervers and we'd never know the difference!
egad!
virtual private serverses!
14:47 < mischief> i dont have money for buying or hosting real hardware
14:48 < mischief> i'm on rootbsd.net right now but i think i'm moving (to another xen host) soon
14:48 < Bink> why?
14:48 < mischief> too expensive for too little
14:48 < mikeputnam> mischief: /join #arpnetworks
14:49 < mischief> their rates look considerably better mikeputnam
14:49 < mischief> but my new provider will be even less
(pardon my paste)
14:51 < mischief> oh well. *reboot*
his host just crashed
and he's shopping on price.
to be fair, price is always a pretty important factor. it was certainly one of the determining factors for me to choose ARP, and i find the prices to be pretty much on the low end of what's out there.
but it just so happens the service is also stellar, so i guess we're all just lucky! :)
*whoa* you make a good point 13:00:40 < mikeputnam> could VPS = [V]irtual [P]rivate [S]ervers and we'd never know the difference!
mikeputnam: LOL
mikeputnam: that's for the plug
mikeputnam: *thanks
any time
up_the_irons: VPS' would show multiple VPS's possession
When a word ends in 'S,' and it is plural AND possessive, only the apostrophe is used (rather than a trailing 'S.')
phlux: sounds right
that discussion is still going on? good hell
I feel successful for starting such a long-lasting discussion
heh
its like when I post on a mailing list with a innocuous sounding question and it starts a flamewar
It's very much like that :/
staticsafe: no kidding
I wasn't flaming anyone
I'm sorry if things were interpreted that way..
nah
It's VPSs. virtual private server => VPS; virtual private servers => VPSs
VPSes would expand to virtual private serveres, which is wrong.
up_the_irons: I know, but "BSD boxen" has become sort of a slang and I enjoy it :)
easymac: :)
Any chance of an annoucement like this from ARP Networks?: http://eportal.directspace.net/announcements.php?id=126
"All Customers Being Upgraded To SSD!" - For those who chose not to click on the link
mnathani: After the latest tweet from @bsdvps, probably not :p
(a box of 20x 1TB WD hard drives)
I don't know what the fascination with SSDs in servers is.
Loads fast? How often do you load stuff? Once it's loaded, you're working from memory anyway. If you're a data server, then you'll use disks anyway because they are much cheaper and much more dense.
brycec: that was actually an old pic
So you're not denying that you'll be replacing all storage with SSD's? :D
sdkmvx, thats if you have enough memory. If your working with something like a e3 based platform where there is a maximum of 32GB of ram, a ssd would benificial if you have an active data set.
that is large
stevenc, so you're using it as cheaper RAM?
in a situation like that, you have to
I can see that. But you wouldn't do that with VPSs anyway.
i wouldn't say its cheaper however
ram is pretty cheap
alot of vps hosts do it, so they can cram more people on a server
without people complaining about disk io
or so they can toss around impressive serverbear.com benchmarks (laugh)
right. I suppose it's just not anywhere near the top of my list for desired features in a server.
brycec: i was waiting for mnathani to come back to answer..  but negative, unless someone wants to buy us over 200 SSDs to replace all our SATAs :)