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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer phlux: VPS's would not be plural
That would show posession
For example: My VPS's IP is ___
VPSes would technically be a correct pluralization ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer m0unds: VPS', you don't do S's
that's for silly people staticsafe: heh easymac: VPS' is still possessive m0unds: i'm just saying in relation to VPS's easymac: Either way is technically correct. m0unds: it's illy
silly
S's is for silly gooses easymac: Welcome to the English language
It's a pile of shit. staticsafe: agreed m0unds: i hate the internet -: staticsafe sends m0unds cookies mike-bur1: I like the English language.
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HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) up_the_irons: phlux: m0unds easymac : I use: VPS'. It ends in S, so an extra "s" is not included to show plurality. twobithacker: this appears to be a grey area of English
some places say VPS's is just plural, some places say it's possessive, with the plural possessive being VPSs'
which looks wrong to me up_the_irons: VPS's is definitely not plural, IMO, b/c an apostrophe is not used to show plurality. I suspected people started using that because "VPSs" looked weird; they used the apostrophe as a separator. easymac: Niether VPS' nor VPS's is plural, it only shows possession. The plural of VPS would either be VPSs or VPSes, but I'm not sure which and don't have a style guide on me at the moment.
The other question is what the plural possessive is.
Again, no style guide on me at the moment -: brycec campaigns for VPSen to be the plural, much like boxen is a plural form of box (as is boxes) easymac: I'm with you brycec brycec: o up_the_irons: easymac: but "en" is used when the base word ends in "x", hence "boxen". would not apply in the same way to VPS. twobithacker: so we should switch to VPB, then VPBen will be appropriate :) brycec: I'm pretty sure that "en" used for more than just words ending in "x" - ask the Germans. ant: in german, yes. but plurals in german are different then in english (like almost everything else...)
btw..boxen is actually the plural of box in german
and i -- as a non-native speaker -- would go for VPSes
wow...this internet connection here sucks more every day mikeputnam: but aren't acronyms handled specially? or something? ***: NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Excess Flood) meingtsla: There are some cases where apostrophes are used to denote plurals. Remember to dot your i's and cross your t's. But afaik that doesn't really carry over to acronyms ***: NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks mikeputnam: could VPS = [V]irtual [P]rivate [S]ervers and we'd never know the difference!
egad! -: up_the_irons slaps mikeputnam meingtsla: virtual private serverses! mikeputnam: 14:47 < mischief> i dont have money for buying or hosting real hardware
14:48 < mischief> i'm on rootbsd.net right now but i think i'm moving (to another xen host) soon
14:48 < Bink> why?
14:48 < mischief> too expensive for too little
14:48 < mikeputnam> mischief: /join #arpnetworks
14:49 < mischief> their rates look considerably better mikeputnam
14:49 < mischief> but my new provider will be even less
(pardon my paste)
14:51 < mischief> oh well. *reboot*
his host just crashed
and he's shopping on price. -: mikeputnam doesn't get it avj: to be fair, price is always a pretty important factor. it was certainly one of the determining factors for me to choose ARP, and i find the prices to be pretty much on the low end of what's out there.
but it just so happens the service is also stellar, so i guess we're all just lucky! :) brycec: *whoa* you make a good point 13:00:40 < mikeputnam> could VPS = [V]irtual [P]rivate [S]ervers and we'd never know the difference! up_the_irons: mikeputnam: LOL
mikeputnam: that's for the plug
mikeputnam: *thanks mikeputnam: any time ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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first2know has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) phlux: up_the_irons: VPS' would show multiple VPS's possession ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer phlux: When a word ends in 'S,' and it is plural AND possessive, only the apostrophe is used (rather than a trailing 'S.') ***: stevenc has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: phlux: sounds right ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) m0unds: that discussion is still going on? good hell brycec: I feel successful for starting such a long-lasting discussion staticsafe: heh
its like when I post on a mailing list with a innocuous sounding question and it starts a flamewar brycec: It's very much like that :/ m0unds: staticsafe: no kidding phlux: I wasn't flaming anyone
I'm sorry if things were interpreted that way.. staticsafe: nah ***: Konata has joined #arpnetworks
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) sdkmvx: It's VPSs. virtual private server => VPS; virtual private servers => VPSs
VPSes would expand to virtual private serveres, which is wrong. easymac: up_the_irons: I know, but "BSD boxen" has become sort of a slang and I enjoy it :) ***: brycec is now known as brycec_bb
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mnathani: Any chance of an annoucement like this from ARP Networks?: http://eportal.directspace.net/announcements.php?id=126
"All Customers Being Upgraded To SSD!" - For those who chose not to click on the link brycec: mnathani: After the latest tweet from @bsdvps, probably not :p
(a box of 20x 1TB WD hard drives) ***: mnathani has quit IRC () sdkmvx: I don't know what the fascination with SSDs in servers is.
Loads fast? How often do you load stuff? Once it's loaded, you're working from memory anyway. If you're a data server, then you'll use disks anyway because they are much cheaper and much more dense. ***: mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
mercutio has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: brycec: that was actually an old pic brycec: So you're not denying that you'll be replacing all storage with SSD's? :D stevenc: sdkmvx, thats if you have enough memory. If your working with something like a e3 based platform where there is a maximum of 32GB of ram, a ssd would benificial if you have an active data set.
that is large sdkmvx: stevenc, so you're using it as cheaper RAM? stevenc: in a situation like that, you have to sdkmvx: I can see that. But you wouldn't do that with VPSs anyway. stevenc: i wouldn't say its cheaper however
ram is pretty cheap
alot of vps hosts do it, so they can cram more people on a server
without people complaining about disk io
or so they can toss around impressive serverbear.com benchmarks (laugh) sdkmvx: right. I suppose it's just not anywhere near the top of my list for desired features in a server. up_the_irons: brycec: i was waiting for mnathani to come back to answer.. but negative, unless someone wants to buy us over 200 SSDs to replace all our SATAs :)