up_the_irons: gdolley?
btw hi all
if i want to add a vm to an existing account, do I just fill out the order form like normal and use the same email?
ls3: Probably best to just email support@ with your order.
alrighty
rgouveia: indeed
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up_the_irons, you process orders?
NiTeMaRe: yup that's me
mikeputnam: looooool
k
NiTeMaRe your name looks familiar are you from that anime irc thing
:o
anime irc?
i forget the name lol
only network that i am on that is even close to anime related or has anime channels is rizon
yeah, that
ugh, sick of summer
m0unds: heh, it's so damn cold here :/
here have this weather
you can have mine
it's 12c inside
it's 41C here
outside
which is 53 fahrenheit
what's it inside?
28C
haha
AC can't keep up
28 is bearable
why so cold inside?
yeah, outside is africa hot
it's terrible
27 is a bit more pleasant
i was supposed to pull some new coax and cat6 today, got up at 0600 and it was 80 outside already and hot as hell in my attic
over 100 F here today
haha
we're at almost 106, it's never this hot here. sucks.
yeah a day for not doing stuff
esp. if you're not used to it extreme heat tends to encourage extreme apathy
AND BEER DRINKING
I'm in a room that reads 92F ;-0
yuck
toddf: ouch
i only have one beer left, and i'm saving it for later
my cat was licking the can of the one i had earlier
upstairs office, not enough ac flowing in, supplemental window ac, and a few servers .. equals ugh indeed
local brewery does their spring/summer stuff in both bottles and cans so you can take them into parks and things where you're not allowed to have glass
toddf: upgrade to haswell!
working in moving stuff to arpnetworks is not going fast enough, as the temp will show
yuck, that's a bummer
or that.
i moved my asterisk box off my local kvm host, reduced my thermals a little
intreesting
(to arp)
i've found there's a difference overnight with a comptuer or not
like having a computer on takes a bit of chill off the room
yeah, i shut mine down the last few days because it's been super hot
if no heater or such
yeah, absolutely
the exhaust helps
but i've never noticed the heat differences other than in server rooms
of increasing heat from hot to hotter
m0unds: does asterisk go fine on virtualisation?
yeah, it's been fine - i only have two DIDs on it, couple of trunks
i've always had in the back of my mind that voip is one of the sitatuions where virtualisation can hurt.
but can != will.
peering bw arp and my provider is much better than my cable connection at home, latency is extremely stable
it certainly can, if there's a lot of cpu contention
ahh
yeah, i want to see some study of virtualisation and context switches
i had issues when i ran asterisk inside esxi
adn jitter / average delay
oddly enough
but no issues w/kvm
weird.
i've done it inside xen and been fine
same host too (prior to moving asterisk offiste)
but it's a bit different when you know what cpu load is like on the system
it really could help that arp is only giving most people one core
dual opteron + 32GB RAM + iSCSI for storage
yeah, it makes a lot of sense
well i dunno how much sense it makes, but it'll reduce context switches
oh hmm interesting.
well, if you have high tenant density on a host w/lower plans, it can help alleviate some issues
i don't like esxi.
but it's mostly that i don't like ui etc.
eh, i couldn't care less about that
kvm was more stable
so i use it instead
i like zfs :)
and having text configs for virtual machines
yeah, the tools for kvm are nice (virsh, etc)
configs are pretty human readable too
yeah
what are you backing storage with?
oh iscsi you said
is it iscsi per vm ?
only running two vms at home
ahh
this is my home config, where i had asterisk and stuff
and needed 32gb of ram? :)
cheap box :)
heh
8 cores and 32GB RAM
hahaha
i used to run xen at home with pbx.
on like 6gb of ram
i've never really messed with xen, other than using hosts that use it
well it was 6gb of ram actually, but it was shared between a few virtual machines and file server
it went pretty well
it was just too noisy :(
xen is good on old hardware
kvm in openindiana requires ept :(
in the end i lost a hard-disk that wasn't raided, that didn't acutlaly have the os on it..
and decided to shift to atom box running linux
smb performance went way down
i bet
and switched up to i7
which was quieter than the old core2duo
but still smb performance is slower than it was on the core2duo
s/slower/worse/
i thought about doing a 1u supermicro D510 atom barebones, but i dunno if it'd work out
it's especially bad if you do simultaeneous read/write
really?
m0unds: i think that's about spec of my atom
that's odd
yeah, it is odd.
i wonder if maybe the drivers suck or something?
seagate 1tb/platter disk
well the disk should do 170mb/sec
or thereaboutsd
same disk performs worse on an i7?
-d
and the ethernet will do gigabit
yeh
i got a warranty replacement on disk
no not worse on i7
worse on linux
ohhhhh
than openindiana
gotcha
i got confused
when using smb.
was gonna say
hahahah
same ethernet card too
intel single port pci-e card
gigabit ct or whatever?
but yeah still, i havent' been able to figure out a way to make it perform the same on linux
yeah ct.
those are good nics
it's a hp card, but same diff.
they were out of intel cards in stock :)
yeah, when i decided to make core2duo server i decided to get good ethernet
the i7 onboard ethernet is better than core2duo though..
it's actually pretty good surprisingly.  it has broadcom chipset, which i've had issues with before.
but in this case it seems comparable.
BCM57781
i've had pretty good luck with server-grade broadcom
pci-x mostly
the core2duo was asus board with some crappy atlansic onboard
which is like realtek :/
but diff
a real pita if using windows as you have to install driver from usb stick
oof
hmm i've found the pci-x broadcom better than the aerly pci-e broadcom
as far as problems go
very 1990s-early2000s
hahaha
i dunno asus p5ql-pro in my core2duo
dunno vintage of that
looks to be ~5 yaers old
huh.
yay, ac kicked back on (we have radio controlled power saving stuff on the compressor that lets the utility co shut it down during conservation periods)
oh you meant the broadcom you used was
i was thinking bcm5703/5704
i had good luck with broadcom pcix
never used anything else really
heh, can you block the antenna and so the compressor just stays on? ;)
it's an opt-in thing
they give me $100 yr to let them do it a couple days a week
usually not here when it happens
m0unds: nice
pays one of our bills
m0unds: are days as hot as that common where you are?
that hot? no, we usually max out at about 95, so we're 10F higher than we ever usually are
ahh
10-12F higher, winters we get down well below freezing. i'm in the desert at sort of high elevation (1740m)
UV is really bad though because of the elevation
damn
it doesn't really get below freezing here
but it did where i used to be
i miss winter :)
now it just gets close... like 1c
ah
i hate winter :/
i hate summer too
i like spring
we didn't have a spring this year, went from being freezing to 80F within the span of a few weeks :/
damn
spring can often feel like it's not quite hot enough
then summer comes and it's like TOO DAMN HOT
yeah
but what i find funny is especially near change overs, lots of people complain whether it's cold or hot
3
oops
hey rgouveia
hey, up_the_irons..I haven't forgotten about you.
I should be able to e-mail you tomorrow. It's been a busy week and my buddy at USCG Sector LA/LB is TAD until tomorrow
phlux: ah cool, no worries, tnx for letting me know.  What is TAD? :)
Temporary Assigned Duty
He went to some training
the weather is pretty great here (hawaii)
sucks where i'm from tho (seattle)
where are you mercutio ?
robonerd: new zealand
which part?
auckland now
i was in christchurch, which was colder in winter
aha
have you been there?
nope. i'd really like to visit NZ tho
i have a great girl friend going there soon (in fiji now)
she's going to spend 3 mo in NZ
ahh ok
do you ever host backpackers?
i don't personally, no
k
is she travelling around a lot?
phlux: roger
yes
backpacker
preferrably looking to avoid creepers
there are hostels in most cities with shared bathrooms and bedrooms
and cheap prices
heh good luck on that :/
backpackers tend to attract them more than other tourists
yea and especially females, sadly
fucking weirdos screwing up the planet
it's life
there are more dangerous places to visit