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btw hi all ***: koan_ is now known as koan
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ls3 has joined #arpnetworks ls3: if i want to add a vm to an existing account, do I just fill out the order form like normal and use the same email? brycec: ls3: Probably best to just email support@ with your order. ls3: alrighty ***: ls3 has quit IRC (Quit: i quit)
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scottschecter has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) up_the_irons: rgouveia: indeed mikeputnam: *boink* http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zLwHwqx7gy4/S40Pcx-0wbI/AAAAAAAAFKs/tkoQHO72ylc/catgifpage53.gif NiTeMaRe: up_the_irons, you process orders? ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks
robonerd has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: NiTeMaRe: yup that's me
mikeputnam: looooool NiTeMaRe: k hazardous: NiTeMaRe your name looks familiar are you from that anime irc thing
:o NiTeMaRe: anime irc? hazardous: i forget the name lol NiTeMaRe: only network that i am on that is even close to anime related or has anime channels is rizon hazardous: yeah, that m0unds: ugh, sick of summer mercutio: m0unds: heh, it's so damn cold here :/
here have this weather m0unds: you can have mine -: m0unds converts F to C mercutio: it's 12c inside m0unds: it's 41C here
outside mercutio: which is 53 fahrenheit
what's it inside? m0unds: 28C
haha
AC can't keep up mercutio: 28 is bearable m0unds: why so cold inside?
yeah, outside is africa hot
it's terrible mercutio: 27 is a bit more pleasant m0unds: i was supposed to pull some new coax and cat6 today, got up at 0600 and it was 80 outside already and hot as hell in my attic up_the_irons: over 100 F here today mercutio: haha m0unds: we're at almost 106, it's never this hot here. sucks. mercutio: yeah a day for not doing stuff
esp. if you're not used to it extreme heat tends to encourage extreme apathy
AND BEER DRINKING toddf: I'm in a room that reads 92F ;-0 m0unds: yuck mercutio: toddf: ouch m0unds: i only have one beer left, and i'm saving it for later
my cat was licking the can of the one i had earlier toddf: upstairs office, not enough ac flowing in, supplemental window ac, and a few servers .. equals ugh indeed m0unds: local brewery does their spring/summer stuff in both bottles and cans so you can take them into parks and things where you're not allowed to have glass mercutio: toddf: upgrade to haswell! toddf: working in moving stuff to arpnetworks is not going fast enough, as the temp will show m0unds: yuck, that's a bummer mercutio: or that. m0unds: i moved my asterisk box off my local kvm host, reduced my thermals a little mercutio: intreesting m0unds: (to arp) mercutio: i've found there's a difference overnight with a comptuer or not
like having a computer on takes a bit of chill off the room m0unds: yeah, i shut mine down the last few days because it's been super hot mercutio: if no heater or such m0unds: yeah, absolutely
the exhaust helps mercutio: but i've never noticed the heat differences other than in server rooms
of increasing heat from hot to hotter
m0unds: does asterisk go fine on virtualisation? m0unds: yeah, it's been fine - i only have two DIDs on it, couple of trunks mercutio: i've always had in the back of my mind that voip is one of the sitatuions where virtualisation can hurt.
but can != will. m0unds: peering bw arp and my provider is much better than my cable connection at home, latency is extremely stable
it certainly can, if there's a lot of cpu contention mercutio: ahh
yeah, i want to see some study of virtualisation and context switches m0unds: i had issues when i ran asterisk inside esxi mercutio: adn jitter / average delay m0unds: oddly enough
but no issues w/kvm mercutio: weird.
i've done it inside xen and been fine m0unds: same host too (prior to moving asterisk offiste) mercutio: but it's a bit different when you know what cpu load is like on the system
it really could help that arp is only giving most people one core m0unds: dual opteron + 32GB RAM + iSCSI for storage
yeah, it makes a lot of sense mercutio: well i dunno how much sense it makes, but it'll reduce context switches
oh hmm interesting. m0unds: well, if you have high tenant density on a host w/lower plans, it can help alleviate some issues mercutio: i don't like esxi.
but it's mostly that i don't like ui etc. m0unds: eh, i couldn't care less about that
kvm was more stable
so i use it instead mercutio: i like zfs :)
and having text configs for virtual machines m0unds: yeah, the tools for kvm are nice (virsh, etc)
configs are pretty human readable too mercutio: yeah
what are you backing storage with?
oh iscsi you said
is it iscsi per vm ? m0unds: only running two vms at home mercutio: ahh m0unds: this is my home config, where i had asterisk and stuff mercutio: and needed 32gb of ram? :) m0unds: cheap box :) mercutio: heh m0unds: 8 cores and 32GB RAM
hahaha mercutio: i used to run xen at home with pbx.
on like 6gb of ram m0unds: i've never really messed with xen, other than using hosts that use it mercutio: well it was 6gb of ram actually, but it was shared between a few virtual machines and file server
it went pretty well
it was just too noisy :(
xen is good on old hardware
kvm in openindiana requires ept :(
in the end i lost a hard-disk that wasn't raided, that didn't acutlaly have the os on it..
and decided to shift to atom box running linux
smb performance went way down m0unds: i bet mercutio: and switched up to i7
which was quieter than the old core2duo
but still smb performance is slower than it was on the core2duo
s/slower/worse/ m0unds: i thought about doing a 1u supermicro D510 atom barebones, but i dunno if it'd work out mercutio: it's especially bad if you do simultaeneous read/write m0unds: really? mercutio: m0unds: i think that's about spec of my atom m0unds: that's odd mercutio: yeah, it is odd. m0unds: i wonder if maybe the drivers suck or something? mercutio: seagate 1tb/platter disk
well the disk should do 170mb/sec
or thereaboutsd m0unds: same disk performs worse on an i7? mercutio: -d
and the ethernet will do gigabit
yeh
i got a warranty replacement on disk
no not worse on i7
worse on linux m0unds: ohhhhh mercutio: than openindiana m0unds: gotcha
i got confused mercutio: when using smb. m0unds: was gonna say
hahahah mercutio: same ethernet card too
intel single port pci-e card m0unds: gigabit ct or whatever? mercutio: but yeah still, i havent' been able to figure out a way to make it perform the same on linux
yeah ct. m0unds: those are good nics mercutio: it's a hp card, but same diff.
they were out of intel cards in stock :)
yeah, when i decided to make core2duo server i decided to get good ethernet
the i7 onboard ethernet is better than core2duo though..
it's actually pretty good surprisingly. it has broadcom chipset, which i've had issues with before.
but in this case it seems comparable.
BCM57781 m0unds: i've had pretty good luck with server-grade broadcom
pci-x mostly mercutio: the core2duo was asus board with some crappy atlansic onboard
which is like realtek :/
but diff
a real pita if using windows as you have to install driver from usb stick m0unds: oof mercutio: hmm i've found the pci-x broadcom better than the aerly pci-e broadcom
as far as problems go m0unds: very 1990s-early2000s
hahaha mercutio: i dunno asus p5ql-pro in my core2duo
dunno vintage of that
looks to be ~5 yaers old m0unds: huh.
yay, ac kicked back on (we have radio controlled power saving stuff on the compressor that lets the utility co shut it down during conservation periods) mercutio: oh you meant the broadcom you used was
i was thinking bcm5703/5704 m0unds: i had good luck with broadcom pcix
never used anything else really up_the_irons: heh, can you block the antenna and so the compressor just stays on? ;) m0unds: it's an opt-in thing
they give me $100 yr to let them do it a couple days a week
usually not here when it happens mercutio: m0unds: nice m0unds: pays one of our bills mercutio: m0unds: are days as hot as that common where you are? m0unds: that hot? no, we usually max out at about 95, so we're 10F higher than we ever usually are mercutio: ahh m0unds: 10-12F higher, winters we get down well below freezing. i'm in the desert at sort of high elevation (1740m)
UV is really bad though because of the elevation mercutio: damn ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mercutio: it doesn't really get below freezing here
but it did where i used to be m0unds: i miss winter :) mercutio: now it just gets close... like 1c up_the_irons: ah mercutio: i hate winter :/
i hate summer too
i like spring ***: evhan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) m0unds: we didn't have a spring this year, went from being freezing to 80F within the span of a few weeks :/ mercutio: damn
spring can often feel like it's not quite hot enough
then summer comes and it's like TOO DAMN HOT m0unds: yeah ***: evhan has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: but what i find funny is especially near change overs, lots of people complain whether it's cold or hot ***: milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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oops ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) up_the_irons: hey rgouveia ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer phlux: hey, up_the_irons..I haven't forgotten about you.
I should be able to e-mail you tomorrow. It's been a busy week and my buddy at USCG Sector LA/LB is TAD until tomorrow up_the_irons: phlux: ah cool, no worries, tnx for letting me know. What is TAD? :) phlux: Temporary Assigned Duty
He went to some training robonerd: the weather is pretty great here (hawaii)
sucks where i'm from tho (seattle)
where are you mercutio ? mercutio: robonerd: new zealand robonerd: which part? mercutio: auckland now
i was in christchurch, which was colder in winter robonerd: aha mercutio: have you been there? robonerd: nope. i'd really like to visit NZ tho
i have a great girl friend going there soon (in fiji now)
she's going to spend 3 mo in NZ mercutio: ahh ok robonerd: do you ever host backpackers? mercutio: i don't personally, no robonerd: k mercutio: is she travelling around a lot? up_the_irons: phlux: roger robonerd: yes
backpacker
preferrably looking to avoid creepers mercutio: there are hostels in most cities with shared bathrooms and bedrooms
and cheap prices
heh good luck on that :/
backpackers tend to attract them more than other tourists robonerd: yea and especially females, sadly
fucking weirdos screwing up the planet mercutio: it's life
there are more dangerous places to visit ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
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