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[04:53] btw hi all [04:57] *** koan_ is now known as koan [05:07] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:27] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [05:59] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) [06:37] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [06:38] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Client Quit) [06:50] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [06:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:20] *** sorressean has left [08:26] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [08:49] *** doomviki1g has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:51] *** doomviking has joined #arpnetworks [09:39] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [09:42] *** robonerd has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:20] *** ls3 has joined #arpnetworks [10:28] if i want to add a vm to an existing account, do I just fill out the order form like normal and use the same email? [10:29] ls3: Probably best to just email support@ with your order. [10:30] alrighty [10:43] *** ls3 has quit IRC (Quit: i quit) [11:23] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [11:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [12:06] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [12:36] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:51] rgouveia: indeed [12:57] *boink* http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zLwHwqx7gy4/S40Pcx-0wbI/AAAAAAAAFKs/tkoQHO72ylc/catgifpage53.gif [13:17] up_the_irons, you process orders? [13:21] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [13:25] *** robonerd has joined #arpnetworks [13:49] NiTeMaRe: yup that's me [13:49] mikeputnam: looooool [13:50] k [13:54] NiTeMaRe your name looks familiar are you from that anime irc thing [13:54] :o [13:54] anime irc? [13:54] i forget the name lol [13:55] only network that i am on that is even close to anime related or has anime channels is rizon [13:55] yeah, that [14:52] ugh, sick of summer [14:53] m0unds: heh, it's so damn cold here :/ [14:53] here have this weather [14:53] you can have mine [14:54] * m0unds converts F to C [14:54] it's 12c inside [14:54] it's 41C here [14:54] outside [14:54] which is 53 fahrenheit [14:54] what's it inside? [14:54] 28C [14:54] haha [14:54] AC can't keep up [14:54] 28 is bearable [14:54] why so cold inside? [14:54] yeah, outside is africa hot [14:54] it's terrible [14:55] 27 is a bit more pleasant [14:55] i was supposed to pull some new coax and cat6 today, got up at 0600 and it was 80 outside already and hot as hell in my attic [14:55] over 100 F here today [14:55] haha [14:55] we're at almost 106, it's never this hot here. sucks. [14:55] yeah a day for not doing stuff [14:56] esp. if you're not used to it extreme heat tends to encourage extreme apathy [14:56] AND BEER DRINKING [14:56] I'm in a room that reads 92F ;-0 [14:56] yuck [14:56] toddf: ouch [14:56] i only have one beer left, and i'm saving it for later [14:56] my cat was licking the can of the one i had earlier [14:57] upstairs office, not enough ac flowing in, supplemental window ac, and a few servers .. equals ugh indeed [14:57] local brewery does their spring/summer stuff in both bottles and cans so you can take them into parks and things where you're not allowed to have glass [14:57] toddf: upgrade to haswell! [14:57] working in moving stuff to arpnetworks is not going fast enough, as the temp will show [14:57] yuck, that's a bummer [14:57] or that. [14:57] i moved my asterisk box off my local kvm host, reduced my thermals a little [14:57] intreesting [14:57] (to arp) [14:58] i've found there's a difference overnight with a comptuer or not [14:58] like having a computer on takes a bit of chill off the room [14:58] yeah, i shut mine down the last few days because it's been super hot [14:58] if no heater or such [14:58] yeah, absolutely [14:58] the exhaust helps [14:58] but i've never noticed the heat differences other than in server rooms [14:58] of increasing heat from hot to hotter [14:59] m0unds: does asterisk go fine on virtualisation? [14:59] yeah, it's been fine - i only have two DIDs on it, couple of trunks [14:59] i've always had in the back of my mind that voip is one of the sitatuions where virtualisation can hurt. [14:59] but can != will. [15:00] peering bw arp and my provider is much better than my cable connection at home, latency is extremely stable [15:00] it certainly can, if there's a lot of cpu contention [15:00] ahh [15:00] yeah, i want to see some study of virtualisation and context switches [15:00] i had issues when i ran asterisk inside esxi [15:00] adn jitter / average delay [15:00] oddly enough [15:00] but no issues w/kvm [15:00] weird. [15:01] i've done it inside xen and been fine [15:01] same host too (prior to moving asterisk offiste) [15:01] but it's a bit different when you know what cpu load is like on the system [15:01] it really could help that arp is only giving most people one core [15:01] dual opteron + 32GB RAM + iSCSI for storage [15:01] yeah, it makes a lot of sense [15:01] well i dunno how much sense it makes, but it'll reduce context switches [15:02] oh hmm interesting. [15:02] well, if you have high tenant density on a host w/lower plans, it can help alleviate some issues [15:02] i don't like esxi. [15:02] but it's mostly that i don't like ui etc. [15:02] eh, i couldn't care less about that [15:02] kvm was more stable [15:02] so i use it instead [15:02] i like zfs :) [15:02] and having text configs for virtual machines [15:03] yeah, the tools for kvm are nice (virsh, etc) [15:03] configs are pretty human readable too [15:03] yeah [15:04] what are you backing storage with? [15:04] oh iscsi you said [15:04] is it iscsi per vm ? [15:04] only running two vms at home [15:04] ahh [15:04] this is my home config, where i had asterisk and stuff [15:04] and needed 32gb of ram? :) [15:04] cheap box :) [15:04] heh [15:04] 8 cores and 32GB RAM [15:04] hahaha [15:04] i used to run xen at home with pbx. [15:05] on like 6gb of ram [15:05] i've never really messed with xen, other than using hosts that use it [15:05] well it was 6gb of ram actually, but it was shared between a few virtual machines and file server [15:05] it went pretty well [15:06] it was just too noisy :( [15:06] xen is good on old hardware [15:06] kvm in openindiana requires ept :( [15:07] in the end i lost a hard-disk that wasn't raided, that didn't acutlaly have the os on it.. [15:07] and decided to shift to atom box running linux [15:07] smb performance went way down [15:08] i bet [15:08] and switched up to i7 [15:08] which was quieter than the old core2duo [15:08] but still smb performance is slower than it was on the core2duo [15:08] s/slower/worse/ [15:08] i thought about doing a 1u supermicro D510 atom barebones, but i dunno if it'd work out [15:08] it's especially bad if you do simultaeneous read/write [15:08] really? [15:08] m0unds: i think that's about spec of my atom [15:08] that's odd [15:09] yeah, it is odd. [15:09] i wonder if maybe the drivers suck or something? [15:09] seagate 1tb/platter disk [15:09] well the disk should do 170mb/sec [15:09] or thereaboutsd [15:09] same disk performs worse on an i7? [15:09] -d [15:09] and the ethernet will do gigabit [15:09] yeh [15:09] i got a warranty replacement on disk [15:09] no not worse on i7 [15:09] worse on linux [15:09] ohhhhh [15:09] than openindiana [15:09] gotcha [15:09] i got confused [15:09] when using smb. [15:10] was gonna say [15:10] hahahah [15:10] same ethernet card too [15:10] intel single port pci-e card [15:10] gigabit ct or whatever? [15:10] but yeah still, i havent' been able to figure out a way to make it perform the same on linux [15:11] yeah ct. [15:11] those are good nics [15:11] it's a hp card, but same diff. [15:11] they were out of intel cards in stock :) [15:11] yeah, when i decided to make core2duo server i decided to get good ethernet [15:11] the i7 onboard ethernet is better than core2duo though.. [15:11] it's actually pretty good surprisingly. it has broadcom chipset, which i've had issues with before. [15:12] but in this case it seems comparable. [15:12] BCM57781 [15:12] i've had pretty good luck with server-grade broadcom [15:12] pci-x mostly [15:12] the core2duo was asus board with some crappy atlansic onboard [15:12] which is like realtek :/ [15:13] but diff [15:13] a real pita if using windows as you have to install driver from usb stick [15:13] oof [15:13] hmm i've found the pci-x broadcom better than the aerly pci-e broadcom [15:13] as far as problems go [15:13] very 1990s-early2000s [15:13] hahaha [15:13] i dunno asus p5ql-pro in my core2duo [15:13] dunno vintage of that [15:14] looks to be ~5 yaers old [15:14] huh. [15:15] yay, ac kicked back on (we have radio controlled power saving stuff on the compressor that lets the utility co shut it down during conservation periods) [15:15] oh you meant the broadcom you used was [15:16] i was thinking bcm5703/5704 [15:16] i had good luck with broadcom pcix [15:16] never used anything else really [15:16] heh, can you block the antenna and so the compressor just stays on? ;) [15:16] it's an opt-in thing [15:16] they give me $100 yr to let them do it a couple days a week [15:16] usually not here when it happens [15:17] m0unds: nice [15:17] pays one of our bills [15:17] m0unds: are days as hot as that common where you are? [15:17] that hot? no, we usually max out at about 95, so we're 10F higher than we ever usually are [15:17] ahh [15:18] 10-12F higher, winters we get down well below freezing. i'm in the desert at sort of high elevation (1740m) [15:18] UV is really bad though because of the elevation [15:18] damn [15:18] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:19] it doesn't really get below freezing here [15:19] but it did where i used to be [15:19] i miss winter :) [15:19] now it just gets close... like 1c [15:19] ah [15:19] i hate winter :/ [15:19] i hate summer too [15:19] i like spring [15:19] *** evhan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [15:20] we didn't have a spring this year, went from being freezing to 80F within the span of a few weeks :/ [15:20] damn [15:20] spring can often feel like it's not quite hot enough [15:20] then summer comes and it's like TOO DAMN HOT [15:20] yeah [15:20] *** evhan has joined #arpnetworks [15:21] but what i find funny is especially near change overs, lots of people complain whether it's cold or hot [15:42] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:43] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [15:51] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:52] 3 [15:52] oops [16:04] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:27] hey rgouveia [16:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:34] hey, up_the_irons..I haven't forgotten about you. [17:35] I should be able to e-mail you tomorrow. It's been a busy week and my buddy at USCG Sector LA/LB is TAD until tomorrow [17:38] phlux: ah cool, no worries, tnx for letting me know. What is TAD? :) [17:56] Temporary Assigned Duty [17:56] He went to some training [17:59] the weather is pretty great here (hawaii) [17:59] sucks where i'm from tho (seattle) [18:00] where are you mercutio ? [18:03] robonerd: new zealand [18:03] which part? [18:04] auckland now [18:04] i was in christchurch, which was colder in winter [18:06] aha [18:06] have you been there? [18:06] nope. i'd really like to visit NZ tho [18:07] i have a great girl friend going there soon (in fiji now) [18:07] she's going to spend 3 mo in NZ [18:07] ahh ok [18:09] do you ever host backpackers? [18:09] i don't personally, no [18:11] k [18:11] is she travelling around a lot? [18:11] phlux: roger [18:13] yes [18:13] backpacker [18:13] preferrably looking to avoid creepers [18:13] there are hostels in most cities with shared bathrooms and bedrooms [18:13] and cheap prices [18:13] heh good luck on that :/ [18:14] backpackers tend to attract them more than other tourists [18:14] yea and especially females, sadly [18:14] fucking weirdos screwing up the planet [18:14] it's life [18:15] there are more dangerous places to visit [18:17] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:52] *** first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:56] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [19:26] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)