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| rgouveia | up_the_irons: gdolley?
btw hi all | [04:53] |
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| ls3 | if i want to add a vm to an existing account, do I just fill out the order form like normal and use the same email? | [10:28] |
| brycec | ls3: Probably best to just email support@ with your order. | [10:29] |
| ls3 | alrighty | [10:30] |
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| up_the_irons | rgouveia: indeed | [12:51] |
| mikeputnam | *boink* http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zLwHwqx7gy4/S40Pcx-0wbI/AAAAAAAAFKs/tkoQHO72ylc/catgifpage53.gif | [12:57] |
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| NiTeMaRe | up_the_irons, you process orders? | [13:17] |
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| up_the_irons | NiTeMaRe: yup that's me
mikeputnam: looooool | [13:49] |
| NiTeMaRe | k | [13:50] |
| hazardous | NiTeMaRe your name looks familiar are you from that anime irc thing
:o | [13:54] |
| NiTeMaRe | anime irc? | [13:54] |
| hazardous | i forget the name lol | [13:54] |
| NiTeMaRe | only network that i am on that is even close to anime related or has anime channels is rizon | [13:55] |
| hazardous | yeah, that | [13:55] |
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| m0unds | ugh, sick of summer | [14:52] |
| mercutio | m0unds: heh, it's so damn cold here :/
here have this weather | [14:53] |
| m0unds | you can have mine
m0unds converts F to C | [14:53] |
| mercutio | it's 12c inside | [14:54] |
| m0unds | it's 41C here
outside | [14:54] |
| mercutio | which is 53 fahrenheit
what's it inside? | [14:54] |
| m0unds | 28C
haha AC can't keep up | [14:54] |
| mercutio | 28 is bearable | [14:54] |
| m0unds | why so cold inside?
yeah, outside is africa hot it's terrible | [14:54] |
| mercutio | 27 is a bit more pleasant | [14:55] |
| m0unds | i was supposed to pull some new coax and cat6 today, got up at 0600 and it was 80 outside already and hot as hell in my attic | [14:55] |
| up_the_irons | over 100 F here today | [14:55] |
| mercutio | haha | [14:55] |
| m0unds | we're at almost 106, it's never this hot here. sucks. | [14:55] |
| mercutio | yeah a day for not doing stuff
esp. if you're not used to it extreme heat tends to encourage extreme apathy AND BEER DRINKING | [14:55] |
| toddf | I'm in a room that reads 92F ;-0 | [14:56] |
| m0unds | yuck | [14:56] |
| mercutio | toddf: ouch | [14:56] |
| m0unds | i only have one beer left, and i'm saving it for later
my cat was licking the can of the one i had earlier | [14:56] |
| toddf | upstairs office, not enough ac flowing in, supplemental window ac, and a few servers .. equals ugh indeed | [14:57] |
| m0unds | local brewery does their spring/summer stuff in both bottles and cans so you can take them into parks and things where you're not allowed to have glass | [14:57] |
| mercutio | toddf: upgrade to haswell! | [14:57] |
| toddf | working in moving stuff to arpnetworks is not going fast enough, as the temp will show | [14:57] |
| m0unds | yuck, that's a bummer | [14:57] |
| mercutio | or that. | [14:57] |
| m0unds | i moved my asterisk box off my local kvm host, reduced my thermals a little | [14:57] |
| mercutio | intreesting | [14:57] |
| m0unds | (to arp) | [14:57] |
| mercutio | i've found there's a difference overnight with a comptuer or not
like having a computer on takes a bit of chill off the room | [14:58] |
| m0unds | yeah, i shut mine down the last few days because it's been super hot | [14:58] |
| mercutio | if no heater or such | [14:58] |
| m0unds | yeah, absolutely
the exhaust helps | [14:58] |
| mercutio | but i've never noticed the heat differences other than in server rooms
of increasing heat from hot to hotter m0unds: does asterisk go fine on virtualisation? | [14:58] |
| m0unds | yeah, it's been fine - i only have two DIDs on it, couple of trunks | [14:59] |
| mercutio | i've always had in the back of my mind that voip is one of the sitatuions where virtualisation can hurt.
but can != will. | [14:59] |
| m0unds | peering bw arp and my provider is much better than my cable connection at home, latency is extremely stable
it certainly can, if there's a lot of cpu contention | [15:00] |
| mercutio | ahh
yeah, i want to see some study of virtualisation and context switches | [15:00] |
| m0unds | i had issues when i ran asterisk inside esxi | [15:00] |
| mercutio | adn jitter / average delay | [15:00] |
| m0unds | oddly enough
but no issues w/kvm | [15:00] |
| mercutio | weird.
i've done it inside xen and been fine | [15:00] |
| m0unds | same host too (prior to moving asterisk offiste) | [15:01] |
| mercutio | but it's a bit different when you know what cpu load is like on the system
it really could help that arp is only giving most people one core | [15:01] |
| m0unds | dual opteron + 32GB RAM + iSCSI for storage
yeah, it makes a lot of sense | [15:01] |
| mercutio | well i dunno how much sense it makes, but it'll reduce context switches
oh hmm interesting. | [15:01] |
| m0unds | well, if you have high tenant density on a host w/lower plans, it can help alleviate some issues | [15:02] |
| mercutio | i don't like esxi.
but it's mostly that i don't like ui etc. | [15:02] |
| m0unds | eh, i couldn't care less about that
kvm was more stable so i use it instead | [15:02] |
| mercutio | i like zfs :)
and having text configs for virtual machines | [15:02] |
| m0unds | yeah, the tools for kvm are nice (virsh, etc)
configs are pretty human readable too | [15:03] |
| mercutio | yeah
what are you backing storage with? oh iscsi you said is it iscsi per vm ? | [15:03] |
| m0unds | only running two vms at home | [15:04] |
| mercutio | ahh | [15:04] |
| m0unds | this is my home config, where i had asterisk and stuff | [15:04] |
| mercutio | and needed 32gb of ram? :) | [15:04] |
| m0unds | cheap box :) | [15:04] |
| mercutio | heh | [15:04] |
| m0unds | 8 cores and 32GB RAM
hahaha | [15:04] |
| mercutio | i used to run xen at home with pbx.
on like 6gb of ram | [15:04] |
| m0unds | i've never really messed with xen, other than using hosts that use it | [15:05] |
| mercutio | well it was 6gb of ram actually, but it was shared between a few virtual machines and file server
it went pretty well it was just too noisy :( xen is good on old hardware kvm in openindiana requires ept :( in the end i lost a hard-disk that wasn't raided, that didn't acutlaly have the os on it.. and decided to shift to atom box running linux smb performance went way down | [15:05] |
| m0unds | i bet | [15:08] |
| mercutio | and switched up to i7
which was quieter than the old core2duo but still smb performance is slower than it was on the core2duo s/slower/worse/ | [15:08] |
| m0unds | i thought about doing a 1u supermicro D510 atom barebones, but i dunno if it'd work out | [15:08] |
| mercutio | it's especially bad if you do simultaeneous read/write | [15:08] |
| m0unds | really? | [15:08] |
| mercutio | m0unds: i think that's about spec of my atom | [15:08] |
| m0unds | that's odd | [15:08] |
| mercutio | yeah, it is odd. | [15:09] |
| m0unds | i wonder if maybe the drivers suck or something? | [15:09] |
| mercutio | seagate 1tb/platter disk
well the disk should do 170mb/sec or thereaboutsd | [15:09] |
| m0unds | same disk performs worse on an i7? | [15:09] |
| mercutio | -d
and the ethernet will do gigabit yeh i got a warranty replacement on disk no not worse on i7 worse on linux | [15:09] |
| m0unds | ohhhhh | [15:09] |
| mercutio | than openindiana | [15:09] |
| m0unds | gotcha
i got confused | [15:09] |
| mercutio | when using smb. | [15:09] |
| m0unds | was gonna say
hahahah | [15:10] |
| mercutio | same ethernet card too
intel single port pci-e card | [15:10] |
| m0unds | gigabit ct or whatever? | [15:10] |
| mercutio | but yeah still, i havent' been able to figure out a way to make it perform the same on linux
yeah ct. | [15:10] |
| m0unds | those are good nics | [15:11] |
| mercutio | it's a hp card, but same diff.
they were out of intel cards in stock :) yeah, when i decided to make core2duo server i decided to get good ethernet the i7 onboard ethernet is better than core2duo though.. it's actually pretty good surprisingly. it has broadcom chipset, which i've had issues with before. but in this case it seems comparable. BCM57781 | [15:11] |
| m0unds | i've had pretty good luck with server-grade broadcom
pci-x mostly | [15:12] |
| mercutio | the core2duo was asus board with some crappy atlansic onboard
which is like realtek :/ but diff a real pita if using windows as you have to install driver from usb stick | [15:12] |
| m0unds | oof | [15:13] |
| mercutio | hmm i've found the pci-x broadcom better than the aerly pci-e broadcom
as far as problems go | [15:13] |
| m0unds | very 1990s-early2000s
hahaha | [15:13] |
| mercutio | i dunno asus p5ql-pro in my core2duo
dunno vintage of that looks to be ~5 yaers old | [15:13] |
| m0unds | huh.
yay, ac kicked back on (we have radio controlled power saving stuff on the compressor that lets the utility co shut it down during conservation periods) | [15:14] |
| mercutio | oh you meant the broadcom you used was
i was thinking bcm5703/5704 | [15:15] |
| m0unds | i had good luck with broadcom pcix
never used anything else really | [15:16] |
| up_the_irons | heh, can you block the antenna and so the compressor just stays on? ;) | [15:16] |
| m0unds | it's an opt-in thing
they give me $100 yr to let them do it a couple days a week usually not here when it happens | [15:16] |
| mercutio | m0unds: nice | [15:17] |
| m0unds | pays one of our bills | [15:17] |
| mercutio | m0unds: are days as hot as that common where you are? | [15:17] |
| m0unds | that hot? no, we usually max out at about 95, so we're 10F higher than we ever usually are | [15:17] |
| mercutio | ahh | [15:17] |
| m0unds | 10-12F higher, winters we get down well below freezing. i'm in the desert at sort of high elevation (1740m)
UV is really bad though because of the elevation | [15:18] |
| mercutio | damn | [15:18] |
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| mercutio | it doesn't really get below freezing here
but it did where i used to be | [15:19] |
| m0unds | i miss winter :) | [15:19] |
| mercutio | now it just gets close... like 1c | [15:19] |
| up_the_irons | ah | [15:19] |
| mercutio | i hate winter :/
i hate summer too i like spring | [15:19] |
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| m0unds | we didn't have a spring this year, went from being freezing to 80F within the span of a few weeks :/ | [15:20] |
| mercutio | damn
spring can often feel like it's not quite hot enough then summer comes and it's like TOO DAMN HOT | [15:20] |
| m0unds | yeah | [15:20] |
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| mercutio | but what i find funny is especially near change overs, lots of people complain whether it's cold or hot | [15:21] |
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| up_the_irons | hey rgouveia | [16:27] |
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| phlux | hey, up_the_irons..I haven't forgotten about you.
I should be able to e-mail you tomorrow. It's been a busy week and my buddy at USCG Sector LA/LB is TAD until tomorrow | [17:34] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: ah cool, no worries, tnx for letting me know. What is TAD? :) | [17:38] |
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| phlux | Temporary Assigned Duty
He went to some training | [17:56] |
| robonerd | the weather is pretty great here (hawaii)
sucks where i'm from tho (seattle) where are you mercutio ? | [17:59] |
| mercutio | robonerd: new zealand | [18:03] |
| robonerd | which part? | [18:03] |
| mercutio | auckland now
i was in christchurch, which was colder in winter | [18:04] |
| robonerd | aha | [18:06] |
| mercutio | have you been there? | [18:06] |
| robonerd | nope. i'd really like to visit NZ tho
i have a great girl friend going there soon (in fiji now) she's going to spend 3 mo in NZ | [18:06] |
| mercutio | ahh ok | [18:07] |
| robonerd | do you ever host backpackers? | [18:09] |
| mercutio | i don't personally, no | [18:09] |
| robonerd | k | [18:11] |
| mercutio | is she travelling around a lot? | [18:11] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: roger | [18:11] |
| robonerd | yes
backpacker preferrably looking to avoid creepers | [18:13] |
| mercutio | there are hostels in most cities with shared bathrooms and bedrooms
and cheap prices heh good luck on that :/ backpackers tend to attract them more than other tourists | [18:13] |
| robonerd | yea and especially females, sadly
fucking weirdos screwing up the planet | [18:14] |
| mercutio | it's life
there are more dangerous places to visit | [18:14] |
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