[01:29] *** first2know has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:28] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [06:53] *** qbit has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [06:56] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [06:56] *** qbit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [06:57] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [09:02] *** first2know has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:07] what is the "/25 thing" on nanog? ..forgive me for not reading the thread. are people talking about announcing /25's? [09:14] Looks like someone was just asking if people think we'll see smaller prefixes as IPv4 runout happens [09:16] General consensus appears to be "no" [09:18] omg.. ncdu, ty brycec :) [09:23] :D [09:23] np [09:24] * brycec has done one good deed for the day, now to do a second: take out the trash [09:29] man, lots of scrollback... [09:29] mercutio: our any2ix link is 1 gbps [09:30] hazardous: there are a lot of combinations i could do with 200ish, what are you looking for? [09:30] mercutio: i don't think we've ever congested any2ix, 1 gbps of peering traffic would be a TON of traffic overall ;) [09:31] twobithacker: ah, thought so. 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[12:38] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [13:37] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [14:56] just rebooted my ARP Networks fbsd VM after 189 days for kernel security update [14:56] went smoothly \o/ [14:57] up_the_irons: yeh i didn't think it was likely, it may be the other end. [14:58] hazardous: 8 ssds sounds expensive? [14:59] static: what security update? [14:59] mercutio: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security-notifications/2013-June/000184.html [15:00] ohlol that one [15:01] hazardous: 8 ssd's for 200 is a hard sell [15:01] 6? [15:02] * brycec steps back out of the negotiations [15:02] heh [15:02] i'd need to get another chassis [15:02] cuz my dedi's go up to 4 drives [15:03] Good point [15:03] (chassis+backblane, I assume) [15:03] yeah [15:03] why would you need 8 ? [15:05] ho hmm, static, that loosk bad [15:09] 10:38:34 < hazardous> right now i think i need about 8 ish at minimum to not have my database fall over and collapse [15:09] mercutio: ^ *shrug* [15:09] I find it hard to swallow, but I've never worked with "big data" [15:10] well most db stuff should be in ram :) [15:12] haha [15:12] yeah, i figured :\ [15:12] at least i get more of a budget in 29 days when adsense goes through [15:27] playstation 4 runs freebsd9? [15:28] wat [15:28] OS based upon it [15:28] speculation [15:28] tehy wanted something bsd licensed? [15:30] "PS4 runs Orbis OS, a modified version of FreeBSD that’s similar to Linux" http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux [15:49] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:56] who wants a ps4 dedicated server? ;) [16:03] < [16:03] for that matter, who simply wants a ps4? [16:03] * up_the_irons raises his hand [16:03] don't expect anything to get done in January 2014 guys... [16:03] i hope it has multitasking [16:03] so you can pause your game and swap into a ssh window [16:04] (as if, considering the drm sony loves it probably won't even have openssh installed) [16:05] i don't even know what the ps4 hardware is like [16:05] is it going to be good? [16:07] LOL hazardous [16:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:00] *** sdkmvx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:26] *** sdkmvx has joined #arpnetworks [17:36] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:42] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:07] why would they put openssh on a home console? [18:07] that's a better question [18:07] they didn't like people running alternative os' on their ps3s, so...yeah [18:09] could probably build an AMD trinity-based htpc for around what it costs to buy a ps4 and you could run whatever you want on it, openssh included..just no games :) [18:09] is the ps4 just x86? [18:09] what makes you say they didn't like it/ [18:09] no [18:09] they implemented it [18:09] because they removed it? [18:10] and made every effort to prevent people from doing it [18:10] what engineer is goin gto want to remove something like that [18:10] the ones who like their jobs? [18:10] hahaha [18:10] gizmoguy: it's x64 [18:10] well "they" i would consider to mean the engineers [18:10] just regular old PC gear [18:10] but it probably came from up high [18:10] i'm sure it did [18:11] why aren't game consoles virtualisable yet [18:11] or there was a reason for it, things were tremendously ram-limited [18:11] gizmoguy: part of the xbox-one are virtualized [18:11] parts* [18:11] nah I mean [18:11] why do people still buy games consoles? [18:11] separately? [18:11] * m0unds shrugs [18:11] why can't I put ps4 on my linux computer [18:11] why can't you run windows on a ps4 you mean? [18:11] because sony can't make money selling you hardware if you use your own [18:12] there are lots of sega emulators out there [18:12] i'm hoping the shift to common x86_64 stuff will mean more, better pc ports [18:12] why would you want a pc port? [18:12] just get real pc games [18:12] because consoles tend to be the lead platform most AAA games are built on? [18:13] with very few exceptions [18:13] consoles are like dumbed down computers [18:13] that's a semantic thing [18:13] with limited functionality [18:13] they sure are [18:13] m0unds: wonder what the margin on the console is vs margin on the games [18:13] so when you take limited functionality and stick it ona pc [18:13] and they get most of the attention from game devs because they make money for the publishers and stuff [18:13] it sucks [18:13] it means the game is designed from the beginning with limitations [18:13] dur [18:13] well it's because piracy is lower actually [18:13] you're pointing out every obvious part of what i said [18:13] i get it [18:13] well just don't buy them [18:14] and buy pc agmes [18:14] jesus [18:14] games [18:14] ok [18:14] semantic nonsense, nope nope nope [18:14] by virtue of the fact that i can run them on my pc, doesn't that make them pc games? [18:14] well buy native games :) [18:14] ports usually aren't as good [18:14] i know. [18:14] iiiii knnnoooooowwww [18:14] hence wanting them to be better, see how that works? [18:14] *** first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:14] i can't actually think of any pc port games recently [18:15] sega rally? [18:15] umm [18:15] i dunno, i play games like starcraft [18:15] gizmoguy: i imagine that the margins are probably better per unit on the hw [18:15] which aren't even on consoles [18:15] i don't play starcraft because blizzard is evil and awful [18:15] diablo will be on consoles shortly [18:16] gizmoguy: but i imagine the volume of titles w/associated licensing and stuff is pretty good too [18:16] there's not meant good RTS games out there :/ [18:16] do you like 4d games at all? [18:16] 4d? [18:16] like galactic civilizations etc? [18:16] I'm questioning, whether steam is a better money making platform than Playstation/xbox [18:16] haven't heard of it? [18:16] gizmoguy: no brand identity [18:16] people are real particular about consoles [18:17] it's more like universe type stuff [18:17] * gizmoguy gamers don't make sense to gizmoguy [18:17] http://www.sinsofasolarempire.com/store [18:17] http://www.galciv2.com/index.aspx [18:17] http://endless-space.amplitude-studios.com/ [18:18] those are all 4d games for the most part, like a mixture of civilization and space stuff [18:18] gizmoguy: i don't either, tbh [18:18] bah it uses steam [18:18] i hate steam [18:18] the stardock ones don't require it, i don't think - unless they do now for some reason [18:19] they used to deploy via their content platform called impulse, but gamestop bought impulse and a bunch of stuff got pulled from it [18:19] stardock? the os/2 company? [18:19] haha [18:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardock [18:19] yeah [18:20] oh galciv is a os/2 game [18:20] gizmoguy: but i think a lot of pc gamers might buy steamboxes [18:21] kind of funny really [19:06] *** first2know has joined #arpnetworks [20:27] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [20:27] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [20:27] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [21:35] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [22:12] *** _mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks