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first2know has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) up_the_irons: what is the "/25 thing" on nanog? ..forgive me for not reading the thread. are people talking about announcing /25's? twobithacker: Looks like someone was just asking if people think we'll see smaller prefixes as IPv4 runout happens
General consensus appears to be "no" up_the_irons: omg.. ncdu, ty brycec :) brycec: :D
np -: brycec has done one good deed for the day, now to do a second: take out the trash up_the_irons: man, lots of scrollback...
mercutio: our any2ix link is 1 gbps
hazardous: there are a lot of combinations i could do with 200ish, what are you looking for?
mercutio: i don't think we've ever congested any2ix, 1 gbps of peering traffic would be a TON of traffic overall ;)
twobithacker: ah, thought so. ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) hazardous: was worth a try but howm any ssds can i get with 200ish
right now i think i need about 8 ish at minimum to not have my database fall over and collapse ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer staticsafe: just rebooted my ARP Networks fbsd VM after 189 days for kernel security update
went smoothly o/ mercutio: up_the_irons: yeh i didn't think it was likely, it may be the other end.
hazardous: 8 ssds sounds expensive?
static: what security update? staticsafe: mercutio: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security-notifications/2013-June/000184.html brycec: ohlol that one up_the_irons: hazardous: 8 ssd's for 200 is a hard sell brycec: 6? -: brycec steps back out of the negotiations staticsafe: heh up_the_irons: i'd need to get another chassis
cuz my dedi's go up to 4 drives brycec: Good point
(chassis+backblane, I assume) up_the_irons: yeah mercutio: why would you need 8 ?
ho hmm, static, that loosk bad brycec: 10:38:34 < hazardous> right now i think i need about 8 ish at minimum to not have my database fall over and collapse
mercutio: ^ *shrug*
I find it hard to swallow, but I've never worked with "big data" mercutio: well most db stuff should be in ram :) hazardous: haha
yeah, i figured :[15:12] <hazardous> at least i get more of a budget in 29 days when adsense goes through
playstation 4 runs freebsd9?
wat mercutio: OS based upon it
speculation
tehy wanted something bsd licensed? brycec: "PS4 runs Orbis OS, a modified version of FreeBSD that’s similar to Linux" http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) up_the_irons: who wants a ps4 dedicated server? ;) hazardous: < up_the_irons: for that matter, who simply wants a ps4? -: up_the_irons raises his hand up_the_irons: don't expect anything to get done in January 2014 guys... hazardous: i hope it has multitasking
so you can pause your game and swap into a ssh window
(as if, considering the drm sony loves it probably won't even have openssh installed) mercutio: i don't even know what the ps4 hardware is like
is it going to be good? brycec: LOL hazardous ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer m0unds: why would they put openssh on a home console?
that's a better question
they didn't like people running alternative os' on their ps3s, so...yeah
could probably build an AMD trinity-based htpc for around what it costs to buy a ps4 and you could run whatever you want on it, openssh included..just no games :) gizmoguy: is the ps4 just x86? mercutio: what makes you say they didn't like it/ m0unds: no mercutio: they implemented it m0unds: because they removed it?
and made every effort to prevent people from doing it mercutio: what engineer is goin gto want to remove something like that m0unds: the ones who like their jobs?
hahaha
gizmoguy: it's x64 mercutio: well "they" i would consider to mean the engineers m0unds: just regular old PC gear mercutio: but it probably came from up high m0unds: i'm sure it did gizmoguy: why aren't game consoles virtualisable yet m0unds: or there was a reason for it, things were tremendously ram-limited
gizmoguy: part of the xbox-one are virtualized
parts* gizmoguy: nah I mean mercutio: why do people still buy games consoles? m0unds: separately? -: m0unds shrugs gizmoguy: why can't I put ps4 on my linux computer mercutio: why can't you run windows on a ps4 you mean? m0unds: because sony can't make money selling you hardware if you use your own mercutio: there are lots of sega emulators out there m0unds: i'm hoping the shift to common x86_64 stuff will mean more, better pc ports mercutio: why would you want a pc port?
just get real pc games m0unds: because consoles tend to be the lead platform most AAA games are built on?
with very few exceptions mercutio: consoles are like dumbed down computers m0unds: that's a semantic thing mercutio: with limited functionality m0unds: they sure are gizmoguy: m0unds: wonder what the margin on the console is vs margin on the games mercutio: so when you take limited functionality and stick it ona pc m0unds: and they get most of the attention from game devs because they make money for the publishers and stuff
it sucks mercutio: it means the game is designed from the beginning with limitations m0unds: dur mercutio: well it's because piracy is lower actually m0unds: you're pointing out every obvious part of what i said
i get it mercutio: well just don't buy them
and buy pc agmes m0unds: jesus mercutio: games m0unds: ok
semantic nonsense, nope nope nope
by virtue of the fact that i can run them on my pc, doesn't that make them pc games? mercutio: well buy native games :)
ports usually aren't as good m0unds: i know.
iiiii knnnoooooowwww
hence wanting them to be better, see how that works? ***: first2know has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) mercutio: i can't actually think of any pc port games recently
sega rally?
umm
i dunno, i play games like starcraft m0unds: gizmoguy: i imagine that the margins are probably better per unit on the hw mercutio: which aren't even on consoles m0unds: i don't play starcraft because blizzard is evil and awful
diablo will be on consoles shortly
gizmoguy: but i imagine the volume of titles w/associated licensing and stuff is pretty good too mercutio: there's not meant good RTS games out there :/ m0unds: do you like 4d games at all? mercutio: 4d? m0unds: like galactic civilizations etc? gizmoguy: I'm questioning, whether steam is a better money making platform than Playstation/xbox mercutio: haven't heard of it? m0unds: gizmoguy: no brand identity
people are real particular about consoles
it's more like universe type stuff -: gizmoguy gamers don't make sense to gizmoguy m0unds: http://www.sinsofasolarempire.com/store
http://www.galciv2.com/index.aspx
http://endless-space.amplitude-studios.com/
those are all 4d games for the most part, like a mixture of civilization and space stuff
gizmoguy: i don't either, tbh mercutio: bah it uses steam
i hate steam m0unds: the stardock ones don't require it, i don't think - unless they do now for some reason
they used to deploy via their content platform called impulse, but gamestop bought impulse and a bunch of stuff got pulled from it mercutio: stardock? the os/2 company? m0unds: haha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardock
yeah mercutio: oh galciv is a os/2 game m0unds: gizmoguy: but i think a lot of pc gamers might buy steamboxes
kind of funny really ***: first2know has joined #arpnetworks
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