hah, anyone use zerigo cloud DNS? not i run your own dns i dunno why dns is something people like to push off to others oh yeah I mostly host my own DNS just one of my clients uses zerigo for all his stuff all down their "6" nameservers have been DDoSed off the internet the past 48 hours wow my personal domain has 5 name servers but generally speaking 3 is plenty for most people and it's just cos it was esay to do for me :) did you read about linkedin's dns being hacked somehow and a few other sites it's hard to tell how hah yeah I heard in linkedin's case it was their DNS hoster who injected an incorrect nameserver or something stupid personal websites = dns.he.net work stuff = 2 physical servers with a 3rd remote VPS ahh i never saw anything conclusive i was half following on nanog linkedin worked normally quicklpy though craigslist didn't but i'm not in US and a few other sites have you seen the absurdly long thread http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-June/thread.html, ctrl+f coordinated yeah i'm subscribed i only briefly looked as i said i tried to only briefly look, but was getting a popup every few minutes about new mail like yesterday so i decided to just read it heh i don't get popups i'm not really following the /25 thing either hah someone said about padding acks to 1500 bytes wat just, "wat" i suppose it's one way to keep ratios up although you need the other end to send big ack on net neutrility cogent always has peering disagreements or issues they're usually the source of the issues so presumably they would have a lot i thoguht isp's were the source of the sisues verizon, comcast etc gizmoguy: zerigo sucks gizmoguy: i used them for a year; when they got bought out by 8x8, their services all started to suck no support, no product improvements, they got ddos'd off the internet last year and pledged to improve stuff..sounds like they haven't for me, personal stuff is on he.net unless they need wildcards, important stuff is on dnsmadeeasy or whateverelse and that coordinated hacking thread was silly trying out rage4 atm i'm on route53 for dns i have a few consulting clients who use easydns as a registrar and dns host and like them a lot Do you guys prefer a specific MTA over another for bsd? I currently use postfix on *nix, I'm open to looking at anything else though. I just don't want to touch exim, assuming it's even in the ports to begin with. postfix fan here haha I figured. postfix works good, just wasn't sure if there was another favorite for BSD I might just be configuring it to relay to the linux box anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter to much. sorressean: there's a lot of excitement behind OpenSMTPD in the BSD project, but I've no personal experience with it. brycec: yeah, I seen that. Looks like it's just barely ready to get into the wild though, not sure how well that'd do for me. (If I recall correctly, I think opensmtpd became the default MTA in 5.3, or maybe it's just slated to be default) sorressean: It's getting a good workout, even while being pretty young. I know it's used at Microsoft to handle some part of their bulk mailing stuff. OpenSMTPD is getting rapid dev atm haha that's kind of cool. #opensmtpd btw :) exchange is clearly the beast for the job. MS uses postfix in their FOPE spam handling platform is the opensmtpd implementation being used for transaction email or something? m0unds: I couldn't say, I'm not involved and it's not something easily searched in my irc logs ah, gotcha if anyone's interested, oreilly media coupon code DSUG2 = 50% off ebooks i don't run any mta :< or handle mail myself that seems weird i don't like running my own mail it's a hassle to move it around, so i host mine via office365 What do you guys use to find out what is taking up the most amount of space on your FreeBSD servers? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=du&sektion=1 Eh I ended up just using 'find /usr/home -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }' Displays everything in /usr/home > 20MB it sure does m0unds i dont run my own mail at all because effort and deliverability i use sailthru, ses and sendgrid for outbound inbound is gandi or gapps or w/e depending on what it's for hazardous: i just figure other people have the good hardware and redundant systems to handle it. gandi is awesome though, in general I'm actually finally moving my stuff back to my own server this weekend Thanks for reminding me i've got an MTA for outbound-only, but that's it m0unds for inbound mail at least the one thing i do not want to deal with is multiple redundant backups to not lose mail, and spam filters i'd much rather have someone else just sort that out for me yeah i've had an acct w/spamexperts for a couple years as a filtering/continuity sort of hting thing* if i have important mail that needs to remain private, well, that's what client-side pgp is for phlux: ncdu - ncurses du, browses the tree, sorts by space used, name, etc oh and lets you delete from inside the app even (recursively) m0unds: yeah.. that was my impression of zerigo I'm moving him to route53 at the moment gizmoguy: it's a bummer, because their services before acquisition were pretty alright I assume on route53 they can zone transfer from a primary DNS server I host? gizmoguy: I use DNSMadeEasy for shit I need up, tis awesome I never liked that route53 (and some others) charge by the query :/ "It supports slaving from a DNS master using IXFR (zone transfer) requests" answered my own question Does that mean it can be converted to a master, gizmoguy ? Or is it permanently slaved? brycec: I want to run route53 as a permanent slave eh, as long as the "per query" pricing is set at a reasonable threshold, it doesn't bother me in the slightest oh misunderstood not like stupid dyn and their 600k query base limit m0unds: seems to be like a cent per million queries or something $.50 per million i think does Route53 have v6 on any of their NSes? I wish I had a way to get an idea what my usage would be without moving to self-hosted or route53 brycec: for my personal svcs w/email and stuff i average less than 100k/mo "Amazon Route 53 supports both forward (AAAA) and reverse (PTR) IPv6 records. However, the Route 53 service itself is not available over IPv6 at this time." :( Thanks that gives me some idea ~200,000+ queries on one of my domains gizmoguy: meh lame since most of my svcs are accessed by eyeball networks, i don't really care about ipv6 right now lulz No m0unds, everyone on the edge of the internet has ipv6 enabled WE DO? nope. every single person hahaha i had to ask comcast for ipv6 at home on my business acct it's going to take them 3 weeks to alloc ipv6 was deployed perfectly 5 years ago in my happy place in my head heh gizmoguy In fact, my ipv4 connection died one day and I didn't notice it. That was fun. oh what's with stupid freenode hiding everyone's IPs I assure you gizmoguy I'm connected to Freenode over ipv6 good work brycec I am too :) gizmoguy: it's not hiding mine nuuuuu gizmoguy's isn't hidden either :DDD retaliate! i can't, i'd knock all of nz offline m0unds: take this: :D ~> ping6 -s 6400 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1 PING 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1(2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1) 6400 data bytes 6408 bytes from 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=193 ms ow brycec: 09:25:12 [freenode] -!- brycec [~cobryce@unaffiliated/cobryce] heh m0unds: "i can't, i'd knock all of nz offline soo true lol there goes nz hahahah :P we are connected to dialup to the US it's an entire city block of modem banks it's ok. we only have 5 people on the internet down here under carefully constructed leanto structures lol and it's timeshare too so I have to get off soon fred wants to use it Moved my mail over to my own server again today you get your "internet bill" on a monthly basis, and you're billed by the bps Feelsgoodman.jpg ohi mercutio! he won't deny it i think mercutio works for an ISP in nz his domain looks familiar nznogger @ mercutio? his ISP peers with ARP Networks too lol i read that as nzlogger we all work double jobs in NZ I'm sysadmin during the day, cut down trees in the weekend do you wear high heels, suspenders and a bra? http://bgp.he.net/AS9559 i think is the one lol m0unds i'm glad someone caught that, maybe m0unds: not usually :P (monty python ref) so gizmoguy zerigo is still down? m0unds: I'm a lumberjack and it's ok ? staticsafe: I think it might be back again post mortem: http://www.zerigo.com/blog/2012/07/zerigodnsoutage er that post is from 2012 gizmoguy lol well I guess they didn't learn much then that's the one i mentioned from last year when they said they'd "try harder" or something hahahah that's the newest post on their blog :S zerigostatus.com i think http://zerigostatus.com/ a.ns.zerigo.net - Up b.ns.zerigo.net - Down c.ns.zerigo.net - Down d.ns.zerigo.net - Up e.ns.zerigo.net - Down still fighting hahaha f.ns.zerigo.net - Down 2/6 ain't bad? What are the recommended administrative e-mail addresses? I know there's abuse@ and postmaster@, but are there any others? dns@ and webmaster@ um, those are the two big ones - you could always add hostmaster if you manage your dns webmaster is a great spam target ^ for whatever reason, 80% of my admin address spam across all domains i run hits webmaster aren't there some that are required? like, if the e-mail bounces, you could be written off as spam by the provider? eh, not really i recommend keeping abuse@ and postmaster@ with some of the sillier RBLs, they'll cry about abuse@ besides that *shrug* roger that..thanks ..? http://okazaki.tomoyo.ca/mtB.png my friend made a typo and it keeps doing that i was really confused there for a second wondering who you are because one of my friends hosts his image off tomoyo.eu yes wintereise uses tomoyo.eu lol postgres- supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Debian release: 7.1 how do you know her, staticsafe haha also is it an anime or something. its a character from an anime oh do you like anime? yes what's an anime? m0unds: "What anime sounds like to your parents" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0g8bwYzMyU lol ahahahahah that's fantastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37dBT09KryA this was listed as "related" that dude creepy he sure is the base ids rules on srx devices will protect against..winnuke i don't know why that's so amusing what's winnuke? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnuke oh yeah, ancient haha lol i don't know those OSes my first comp was win xp what..? how old are you? the first computer i ever used was an IBM express my dad's company sent it to our house for him to generate quotes on um a teenager ;s yeah I figured you had to be people in another channel were like what the fuck when they found out my first internet connection was broadband The first computer I remember us having was some huge white laptop lol I think it only had DOS on it oh man my dad also ended up with an NEC laptop that booted from 3.5" floppy and had an external 4800baud modem I first got into Linux during my family's 56k days I'll never forget playing with ppp for the first time I almost gave up on Linux this was back when Corel offered a Linux suite i remember using ubuntu version 9.04? as a little kid :3 I remember when there was no Ubuntu and the world was better for it! heh terms i don't know: baud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud terms you should google: baud 4800 baud = 4800 bits per second orrrrr 4.8kbit/sec isn't ~5kb/s basically 56k slightly less than .6KB/sec wat 4.8kbit/sec = .6KB/sec you'd be hard pressed to get much more than 5KB/sec over 56k my first linux use was redhat 4 my friend's brother was an intern at intel, and they had him learning how to use it. i borrowed the discs and installed it on my old 486 9600 baud 4 lyf O NO U DINT or do you mean, like, literally I don't really bother changing my kit off 9600 baud because you're in nz makes it harder to guess what speed I set it up to I really <3 the gear that does baud-negotiation I've got an HP switch that does it you serial in to it at any sped hit enter a few times and it works out what speed you're talking to it at ^ the future right there i don't know if i can handle how bad these scaled images look on this ereader i might have to resort to reading in the browser or something http://sdrv.ms/1aDNEmy up_the_irons: how much capacity does arp have to any2ix? could it be congesting? hey up_the_irons, whenever you're back - what kind of spec can i get for around 200ish? preferably with ssds icmp deprioritisation and return routes etc makes it harder to tell hmm facebook looks ok well 1 msec jitter maybe other end or maybe the san jose / los angeles thing hi guys any idea which encoding is this ? "Çñ®PNl?4Ó!?¬ØQìw" nope maybe unicode?