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| gizmoguy | hah, anyone use zerigo cloud DNS? | [01:42] |
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| mercutio | not i
run your own dns i dunno why dns is something people like to push off to others | [02:20] |
| gizmoguy | oh yeah I mostly host my own DNS
just one of my clients uses zerigo for all his stuff all down their "6" nameservers have been DDoSed off the internet the past 48 hours | [02:27] |
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| mercutio | wow
my personal domain has 5 name servers but generally speaking 3 is plenty for most people and it's just cos it was esay to do for me :) did you read about linkedin's dns being hacked somehow and a few other sites it's hard to tell how | [02:49] |
| gizmoguy | hah yeah
I heard in linkedin's case it was their DNS hoster who injected an incorrect nameserver or something stupid personal websites = dns.he.net work stuff = 2 physical servers with a 3rd remote VPS | [02:53] |
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| mercutio | ahh i never saw anything conclusive
i was half following on nanog linkedin worked normally quicklpy though craigslist didn't but i'm not in US | [03:26] |
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| hazardous | <mercutio> and a few other sites
have you seen the absurdly long thread http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2013-June/thread.html, ctrl+f coordinated | [06:15] |
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| mercutio | yeah
i'm subscribed i only briefly looked as i said | [06:40] |
| hazardous | i tried to only briefly look, but was getting a popup every few minutes about new mail like yesterday
so i decided to just read it | [06:41] |
| mercutio | heh
i don't get popups i'm not really following the /25 thing either hah someone said about padding acks to 1500 bytes | [06:41] |
| hazardous | wat
just, "wat" | [06:42] |
| mercutio | i suppose it's one way to keep ratios up
although you need the other end to send big ack on net neutrility cogent always has peering disagreements or issues | [06:42] |
| hazardous | they're usually the source of the issues so presumably they would have a lot | [06:44] |
| mercutio | i thoguht isp's were the source of the sisues
verizon, comcast etc | [06:45] |
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| m0unds | gizmoguy: zerigo sucks
gizmoguy: i used them for a year; when they got bought out by 8x8, their services all started to suck no support, no product improvements, they got ddos'd off the internet last year and pledged to improve stuff..sounds like they haven't | [07:18] |
| hazardous | for me, personal stuff is on he.net unless they need wildcards, important stuff is on dnsmadeeasy or whateverelse | [07:20] |
| m0unds | and that coordinated hacking thread was silly | [07:20] |
| hazardous | trying out rage4 atm | [07:20] |
| m0unds | i'm on route53 for dns
i have a few consulting clients who use easydns as a registrar and dns host and like them a lot | [07:20] |
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| sorressean | Do you guys prefer a specific MTA over another for bsd? I currently use postfix on *nix, I'm open to looking at anything else though. I just don't want to touch exim, assuming it's even in the ports to begin with. | [09:00] |
| phlux | postfix fan here | [09:01] |
| sorressean | haha I figured. postfix works good, just wasn't sure if there was another favorite for BSD
I might just be configuring it to relay to the linux box anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter to much. | [09:02] |
| brycec | sorressean: there's a lot of excitement behind OpenSMTPD in the BSD project, but I've no personal experience with it. | [09:16] |
| sorressean | brycec: yeah, I seen that. Looks like it's just barely ready to get into the wild though, not sure how well that'd do for me. | [09:16] |
| brycec | (If I recall correctly, I think opensmtpd became the default MTA in 5.3, or maybe it's just slated to be default)
sorressean: It's getting a good workout, even while being pretty young. I know it's used at Microsoft to handle some part of their bulk mailing stuff. | [09:17] |
| staticsafe | OpenSMTPD is getting rapid dev atm | [09:18] |
| sorressean | haha that's kind of cool. | [09:18] |
| staticsafe | #opensmtpd btw :) | [09:18] |
| sorressean | exchange is clearly the beast for the job. | [09:18] |
| m0unds | MS uses postfix in their FOPE spam handling platform
is the opensmtpd implementation being used for transaction email or something? | [09:23] |
| brycec | m0unds: I couldn't say, I'm not involved and it's not something easily searched in my irc logs | [09:29] |
| m0unds | ah, gotcha | [09:34] |
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| m0unds | if anyone's interested, oreilly media coupon code DSUG2 = 50% off ebooks | [11:29] |
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| hazardous | i don't run any mta :<
or handle mail myself that seems weird | [11:44] |
| m0unds | i don't like running my own mail
it's a hassle to move it around, so i host mine via office365 | [11:45] |
| phlux | What do you guys use to find out what is taking up the most amount of space on your FreeBSD servers? | [11:52] |
| m0unds | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=du&sektion=1 | [11:56] |
| phlux | Eh
I ended up just using 'find /usr/home -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} ; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }' Displays everything in /usr/home > 20MB | [12:00] |
| m0unds | it sure does | [12:02] |
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| hazardous | m0unds i dont run my own mail at all because effort and deliverability
i use sailthru, ses and sendgrid for outbound inbound is gandi or gapps or w/e depending on what it's for | [12:19] |
| m0unds | hazardous: i just figure other people have the good hardware and redundant systems to handle it. gandi is awesome though, in general | [12:25] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe hosts his own mail for certain stuff and has it hosted for certain other stuff | [12:25] |
| phlux | I'm actually finally moving my stuff back to my own server this weekend
Thanks for reminding me | [12:26] |
| m0unds | i've got an MTA for outbound-only, but that's it | [12:26] |
| hazardous | m0unds for inbound mail at least
the one thing i do not want to deal with is multiple redundant backups to not lose mail, and spam filters i'd much rather have someone else just sort that out for me | [12:32] |
| m0unds | yeah
i've had an acct w/spamexperts for a couple years as a filtering/continuity sort of hting thing* | [12:32] |
| hazardous | if i have important mail that needs to remain private, well, that's what client-side pgp is for | [12:33] |
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| brycec | phlux: ncdu - ncurses du, browses the tree, sorts by space used, name, etc
oh and lets you delete from inside the app even (recursively) | [13:13] |
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| gizmoguy | m0unds: yeah.. that was my impression of zerigo
I'm moving him to route53 at the moment | [14:17] |
| m0unds | gizmoguy: it's a bummer, because their services before acquisition were pretty alright | [14:17] |
| gizmoguy | I assume on route53 they can zone transfer from a primary DNS server I host? | [14:18] |
| staticsafe | gizmoguy: I use DNSMadeEasy for shit I need up, tis awesome | [14:18] |
| brycec | I never liked that route53 (and some others) charge by the query :/ | [14:19] |
| gizmoguy | "It supports slaving from a DNS master using IXFR (zone transfer) requests"
answered my own question | [14:19] |
| brycec | Does that mean it can be converted to a master, gizmoguy ?
Or is it permanently slaved? | [14:19] |
| gizmoguy | brycec: I want to run route53 as a permanent slave | [14:19] |
| m0unds | eh, as long as the "per query" pricing is set at a reasonable threshold, it doesn't bother me in the slightest | [14:19] |
| brycec | oh misunderstood | [14:19] |
| m0unds | not like stupid dyn and their 600k query base limit | [14:20] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: seems to be like a cent per million queries or something | [14:20] |
| m0unds | $.50 per million
i think | [14:20] |
| staticsafe | does Route53 have v6 on any of their NSes? | [14:20] |
| brycec | I wish I had a way to get an idea what my usage would be without moving to self-hosted or route53 | [14:20] |
| m0unds | brycec: for my personal svcs w/email and stuff i average less than 100k/mo | [14:21] |
| gizmoguy | "Amazon Route 53 supports both forward (AAAA) and reverse (PTR) IPv6 records. However, the Route 53 service itself is not available over IPv6 at this time."
:( | [14:21] |
| brycec | Thanks that gives me some idea | [14:21] |
| staticsafe | ~200,000+ queries on one of my domains
gizmoguy: meh lame | [14:21] |
| m0unds | since most of my svcs are accessed by eyeball networks, i don't really care about ipv6 right now | [14:23] |
| staticsafe | lulz | [14:23] |
| gizmoguy | No m0unds, everyone on the edge of the internet has ipv6 enabled | [14:23] |
| m0unds | WE DO?
m0unds checks nope. | [14:23] |
| gizmoguy | every single person | [14:23] |
| m0unds | hahaha
i had to ask comcast for ipv6 at home on my business acct it's going to take them 3 weeks to alloc | [14:23] |
| gizmoguy | ipv6 was deployed perfectly 5 years ago in my happy place in my head | [14:24] |
| staticsafe | heh gizmoguy | [14:24] |
| brycec | brycec is 100% IPv6 compat/capable | [14:24] |
| gizmoguy | gizmoguy whoises everyone in the chan to see who is cool enough to have IRCv6 | [14:25] |
| brycec | In fact, my ipv4 connection died one day and I didn't notice it. That was fun. | [14:25] |
| m0unds | m0unds puts on his best whois-pants | [14:25] |
| gizmoguy | oh what's with stupid freenode hiding everyone's IPs | [14:25] |
| brycec | I assure you gizmoguy I'm connected to Freenode over ipv6 | [14:25] |
| gizmoguy | good work brycec
I am too :) | [14:25] |
| m0unds | gizmoguy: it's not hiding mine
m0unds panics | [14:26] |
| gizmoguy | gizmoguy ddos's | [14:26] |
| m0unds | nuuuuu | [14:26] |
| brycec | gizmoguy's isn't hidden either :DDD
retaliate! | [14:26] |
| m0unds | i can't, i'd knock all of nz offline | [14:27] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: take this: | [14:27] |
| m0unds | :D | [14:27] |
| gizmoguy | ~> ping6 -s 6400 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1
PING 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1(2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1) 6400 data bytes 6408 bytes from 2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe69:aef1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=193 ms | [14:27] |
| m0unds | ow | [14:27] |
| gizmoguy | brycec: 09:25:12 [freenode] -!- brycec [~cobryce@unaffiliated/cobryce] | [14:27] |
| staticsafe | heh | [14:27] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: "i can't, i'd knock all of nz offline
soo true | [14:27] |
| brycec | lol | [14:28] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe hits gizmoguy with 100mbit
there goes nz | [14:28] |
| m0unds | hahahah | [14:28] |
| staticsafe | :P | [14:28] |
| gizmoguy | we are connected to dialup to the US | [14:28] |
| m0unds | it's an entire city block of modem banks | [14:28] |
| gizmoguy | it's ok. we only have 5 people on the internet down here | [14:29] |
| m0unds | under carefully constructed leanto structures | [14:29] |
| staticsafe | lol | [14:29] |
| gizmoguy | and it's timeshare too
so I have to get off soon fred wants to use it | [14:29] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe says hi to the other nz guy in here | [14:29] |
| phlux | Moved my mail over to my own server again today | [14:29] |
| m0unds | you get your "internet bill" on a monthly basis, and you're billed by the bps | [14:29] |
| phlux | Feelsgoodman.jpg | [14:29] |
| staticsafe | ohi mercutio! | [14:29] |
| gizmoguy | he won't deny it | [14:30] |
| staticsafe | i think mercutio works for an ISP in nz | [14:30] |
| gizmoguy | his domain looks familiar
nznogger @ mercutio? | [14:30] |
| staticsafe | his ISP peers with ARP Networks too lol | [14:31] |
| m0unds | i read that as nzlogger | [14:31] |
| gizmoguy | we all work double jobs in NZ
I'm sysadmin during the day, cut down trees in the weekend | [14:32] |
| m0unds | do you wear high heels, suspenders and a bra? | [14:32] |
| staticsafe | http://bgp.he.net/AS9559 i think is the one | [14:32] |
| brycec | lol m0unds | [14:34] |
| m0unds | i'm glad someone caught that, maybe | [14:35] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: not usually :P | [14:44] |
| m0unds | (monty python ref) | [14:44] |
| staticsafe | so gizmoguy zerigo is still down? | [14:44] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: I'm a lumberjack and it's ok ?
staticsafe: I think it might be back again post mortem: http://www.zerigo.com/blog/2012/07/zerigodnsoutage | [14:45] |
| staticsafe | er that post is from 2012 gizmoguy | [14:47] |
| m0unds | lol | [14:48] |
| gizmoguy | well I guess they didn't learn much then | [14:48] |
| m0unds | that's the one i mentioned from last year when they said they'd "try harder" or something
hahahah | [14:48] |
| gizmoguy | that's the newest post on their blog :S | [14:49] |
| m0unds | zerigostatus.com
i think | [14:49] |
| gizmoguy | http://zerigostatus.com/
a.ns.zerigo.net - Up b.ns.zerigo.net - Down c.ns.zerigo.net - Down d.ns.zerigo.net - Up e.ns.zerigo.net - Down | [14:49] |
| m0unds | still fighting
hahaha | [14:49] |
| gizmoguy | f.ns.zerigo.net - Down
2/6 ain't bad? | [14:49] |
| phlux | What are the recommended administrative e-mail addresses? I know there's abuse@ and postmaster@, but are there any others? | [14:50] |
| staticsafe | dns@ and webmaster@ | [14:50] |
| m0unds | um, those are the two big ones - you could always add hostmaster if you manage your dns
webmaster is a great spam target | [14:50] |
| staticsafe | ^ | [14:51] |
| m0unds | for whatever reason, 80% of my admin address spam across all domains i run hits webmaster | [14:51] |
| phlux | aren't there some that are required?
like, if the e-mail bounces, you could be written off as spam by the provider? | [14:52] |
| staticsafe | eh, not really
i recommend keeping abuse@ and postmaster@ | [14:52] |
| m0unds | with some of the sillier RBLs, they'll cry about abuse@ | [14:52] |
| staticsafe | besides that *shrug* | [14:52] |
| phlux | roger that..thanks | [14:52] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe slaps opendns | [14:54] |
| m0unds | ..? | [14:54] |
| staticsafe | http://okazaki.tomoyo.ca/mtB.png my friend made a typo and it keeps doing that | [14:55] |
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| hazardous | i was really confused there for a second wondering who you are because one of my friends hosts his image off tomoyo.eu | [15:32] |
| staticsafe | yes wintereise uses tomoyo.eu | [15:39] |
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| gizmoguy | lol postgres- supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Debian release: 7.1 | [16:08] |
| hazardous | how do you know her, staticsafe | [16:09] |
| m0unds | haha | [16:09] |
| hazardous | also is it an anime or something. | [16:09] |
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| staticsafe | its a character from an anime | [16:15] |
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| hazardous | oh
do you like anime? | [16:19] |
| staticsafe | yes | [16:22] |
| m0unds | what's an anime? | [16:23] |
| gizmoguy | m0unds: "What anime sounds like to your parents" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0g8bwYzMyU | [16:27] |
| staticsafe | lol | [16:27] |
| m0unds | ahahahahah
that's fantastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37dBT09KryA this was listed as "related" | [16:27] |
| gizmoguy | that dude creepy | [16:32] |
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| m0unds | he sure is
the base ids rules on srx devices will protect against..winnuke i don't know why that's so amusing | [17:32] |
| hazardous | what's winnuke? | [17:46] |
| m0unds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnuke | [17:47] |
| hazardous | oh | [17:49] |
| m0unds | yeah, ancient
haha | [17:49] |
| hazardous | lol i don't know those OSes
my first comp was win xp | [17:49] |
| phlux | what..?
how old are you? | [17:49] |
| m0unds | the first computer i ever used was an IBM express
my dad's company sent it to our house for him to generate quotes on | [17:51] |
| hazardous | um
a teenager ;s | [17:51] |
| phlux | yeah I figured you had to be | [17:51] |
| hazardous | people in another channel were like what the fuck when they found out my first internet connection was broadband | [17:52] |
| phlux | The first computer I remember us having was some huge white laptop | [17:52] |
| hazardous | lol | [17:52] |
| phlux | I think it only had DOS on it
oh man | [17:52] |
| m0unds | my dad also ended up with an NEC laptop that booted from 3.5" floppy and had an external 4800baud modem | [17:52] |
| phlux | I first got into Linux during my family's 56k days
I'll never forget playing with ppp for the first time I almost gave up on Linux this was back when Corel offered a Linux suite | [17:52] |
| hazardous | i remember using ubuntu version 9.04? as a little kid
:3 | [17:53] |
| phlux | I remember when there was no Ubuntu and the world was better for it! | [17:53] |
| m0unds | heh | [17:53] |
| hazardous | terms i don't know: baud | [17:54] |
| m0unds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baud | [17:54] |
| phlux | terms you should google: baud | [17:55] |
| m0unds | 4800 baud = 4800 bits per second
orrrrr 4.8kbit/sec | [17:55] |
| hazardous | isn't ~5kb/s basically 56k | [17:56] |
| m0unds | slightly less than .6KB/sec | [17:56] |
| hazardous | wat | [17:57] |
| m0unds | 4.8kbit/sec = .6KB/sec
you'd be hard pressed to get much more than 5KB/sec over 56k my first linux use was redhat 4 my friend's brother was an intern at intel, and they had him learning how to use it. i borrowed the discs and installed it on my old 486 | [17:57] |
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| gizmoguy | 9600 baud 4 lyf | [18:45] |
| m0unds | O NO U DINT
or do you mean, like, literally | [18:45] |
| gizmoguy | I don't really bother changing my kit off 9600 baud | [18:45] |
| m0unds | because you're in nz | [18:45] |
| gizmoguy | makes it harder to guess what speed I set it up to
I really <3 the gear that does baud-negotiation I've got an HP switch that does it you serial in to it at any sped hit enter a few times and it works out what speed you're talking to it at ^ the future right there | [18:45] |
| m0unds | i don't know if i can handle how bad these scaled images look on this ereader
i might have to resort to reading in the browser or something http://sdrv.ms/1aDNEmy | [18:47] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: how much capacity does arp have to any2ix? could it be congesting? | [21:26] |
| hazardous | hey up_the_irons, whenever you're back - what kind of spec can i get for around 200ish? preferably with ssds | [21:27] |
| mercutio | icmp deprioritisation and return routes etc makes it harder to tell | [21:28] |
| hmm facebook looks ok
well 1 msec jitter maybe other end or maybe the san jose / los angeles thing | [21:35] | |
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| N3RG4L | hi guys
any idea which encoding is this ? "Çñ®PNl?4Ó!?¬ØQìw" | [22:05] |
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| mercutio | nope
maybe unicode? | [23:04] |
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