Ummm Adding user to mysql will also add it to the server? no Users on the system are completely independent from users in mysql fine, be rude. heh bad bnc try irssi irssi is a terrible bouncer. proxy, sure, but not a bouncer. try tmux :) tmux is not a bouncer, it's a terminal multiplexer :p works for that purpose for me :) weechat > irssi native sasl ftw weechat +1 i don't know what sasl is, all i know is plaintext is the way to go so i don't get tortured for encryption keys later lol you don't need encryption keys with sasl plz2blrning irc's sasl authentication https://github.com/atheme/charybdis/blob/master/doc/sasl.txt pl2breading i use SASL auth for e-mail as well with dovecot I use ssl cert auth with Freenode :) why use ssl with freenode? Because I can. the server can always sniff what you say anyway rteo pt ompi a oops because my local network is extremely hostile i'd like to see widespread lz4 text compression myself and this router doesn't know what vlans are SSL is to prevent in-transit sniffing. Any one in-transit would have to know which server I'm connected to, which channel, and that channel would have to be public. Not that I'm concerned about sniffing. hazard: so much so that encyption will make you guilty until proven innocent? yes brycec: You can use SSL AND SASL on some networks (like mine) the CertFP authentication happens via SASL, so the FP is passed before the connection is completed, but your password is never stored