#arpnetworks 2013-06-05,Wed

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mercutioheh
hi
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toddf_not that I'm complaining but is the bandwidth meter working since a couple weeks ago?
all my datapoints are empty for the daily and weekly charts, right above week 20 it goes empty
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hazardousmine look ok i think http://i.imgur.com/oLr5HpR.png [11:21]
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hazardousoh, hm
week 20?
http://i.imgur.com/lu4QE7k.png
this looks odd
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up_the_ironstoddf: hazardous : anyone switched to the 1 gbps port won't have anything in their graphs (known issue) [11:53]
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hazardous: indeed week 20 looks weird ;) [12:17]
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toddfoh, didn't realize that was an issue [12:34]
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brycecNow I feel self-conscious about how little b/w I'm using :(
<1GB in the last month
I know! I'll just iperf around the net a bit, chew up my quota
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz waves [16:58]
brycecbrycec waves [16:59]
mercutioup_the_irons: have many people switched to the gigabit yet? [17:00]
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up_the_ironsmercutio: a few
brycec: lol
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mercutiodid anyone notice a diff? [17:03]
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz particulates [17:07]
what - there's something new to try here? :) [17:20]
staticsafe:o [17:21]
mercutioRandalSchwartz: i think you have to make a request before up_the_irons goes to datacentre
although maybe he's plugged in all the hosts to it now
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up_the_ironsmercutio: nope, it's all done :) [17:32]
mercutiobut from my understanding, some people are having their /30 shifted to the new router, which terminates on gigabit rather than 100 megabit
up_the_irons: ahh cool
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up_the_ironsmercutio: i can re-terminate vlans to the new switch all remotely [17:33]
mercutiohmm
but i have bgp so it's complicated for me :(
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RandalSchwartzmake a request about what?
where would I have learned abut this?
oh!
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up_the_ironsmercutio: yeah i know, still need to figure out what to do about that
RandalSchwartz: only by lerking in here. i haven't officially announced anything.
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RandalSchwartzok
would I have to have new settings for my /etc/rc.conf?
like for ipv6?
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up_the_ironsmercutio: first thought would be to open 2nd session on new router. those with bgp should actually desire 2 sessions if they want true redundancy. i'd announce a default route downstream from both. in this case, bgp customers would have vlan active on both switches.. i guess... gotta figure that out still (don't want to create a loop)
RandalSchwartz: no changes necessary on your side
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RandalSchwartzbut of course all this reminds me that before I can install my next package, I have to upgraded from perl 5.10 to something that is actually supported. :) [17:38]
mercutioup_the_irons: i assume you don't want to allocate another vlan to the other switch [17:38]
RandalSchwartzshoemaker's children and all that [17:39]
mercutioi assume with one vlan the way to go would to have the vlan not joining between the two routers. [17:40]
up_the_ironsmercutio: that is a possibility actually. with new IP block. [17:40]
mercutiohmm
there's also the possibility of using /31s.
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up_the_ironsmercutio: indeed, can't join between routers, but on vm hosts there is a bridge. need to test if this would be a problem. [17:41]
mercutioi dunno if you'll run out of ip's or vlans first. [17:41]
up_the_ironsprobably IPs :) [17:42]
mercutiodamn this ip starvation [17:42]
up_the_ironsesp. if I get a 2nd location going and put a /22 or something over there [17:42]
mercutioup_the_irons: if you're only putting a /22 in second location, then testing /31s is probably prudent.
well if wanting to ahve more than 250 customers in other location
that said, if you have two locations then having a /24 anycast between the two would be cool.
no idea how much demand though
and it's a bit complicated if people want proper redundancy for it
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up_the_ironsmercutio: i have had a couple rare inquiries for anycast services. good thing about anycast is you can charge a lot ;) [17:45]
mercutioup_the_irons: heh [17:45]
up_the_ironsyeah ppl pay big bucks for that kind of redundancy [17:45]
mercutiointeresting. [17:45]
up_the_ironsup_the_irons emails himself a feature request ("Anycast Services") ;) [17:45]
mercutioi suppose i'm more of an engineer than sales droid.
i see it more as a cool thing to do :)
it looked liek the second location may be a joke before when i read about it
something about some holiday checking out datacentres.
but it's pretty likely ?
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up_the_ironsi also think of it more of as "a cool thing to do"; getting paid for it is just a nice side effect ;)
the 2nd location is no joke, but it's also not close. very likely a 2014 endeavor.
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mercutioi found some kind of limited bgp daemon without forwarding that made it easy to do any cast type things before
can't find it now though
ahh ok
well it's already half way through 2013, and xmas seemed liek a few weeks ago :)
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up_the_ironsyup srsly [17:48]
mercutioi think i found something diff from last time heh
ahh found the original thing
exabgp
basically it makes it easy to do things like withdraw route when a daemon isn't, inject it when it is etc
which means if you have a tunnel between multiple locations, or multiple hosts within oen location should be able to have multiple hosts serve the same ip
for a service
and just advertise it as a /32
of course there is the bgp complication
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mercutioheh, i don't think i've ever seen so many security vulnerabilities in a row.. the X library stuff effects heaps of packages on ubuntu [17:54]
staticsafeyes
my inbox was flooded with DSAs
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up_the_ironssame here [17:57]
mercutiooh it seems exabgp has an ubuntu pacakge [17:58]
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mercutiooh, freenode is being ddos'ed again [18:25]
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