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[10:38] all my datapoints are empty for the daily and weekly charts, right above week 20 it goes empty [10:39] *** toddf_ is now known as toddf [10:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [10:59] *** Guest59117 is now known as pjs [11:21] mine look ok i think http://i.imgur.com/oLr5HpR.png [11:23] *** Guest99130 is now known as nixbag [11:23] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Changing host) [11:23] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [11:35] oh, hm [11:35] week 20? [11:35] http://i.imgur.com/lu4QE7k.png [11:35] this looks odd [11:37] *** koan_ is now known as koan [11:53] toddf: hazardous : anyone switched to the 1 gbps port won't have anything in their graphs (known issue) [12:17] hazardous: indeed week 20 looks weird ;) [12:34] oh, didn't realize that was an issue [12:40] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:41] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [13:45] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:48] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [14:19] <3 [16:25] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [16:49] Now I feel self-conscious about how little b/w I'm using :( [16:50] <1GB in the last month [16:50] I know! I'll just iperf around the net a bit, chew up my quota [16:52] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [16:58] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [16:58] * RandalSchwartz waves [16:59] * brycec waves [17:00] up_the_irons: have many people switched to the gigabit yet? [17:01] * DaCa waves [17:02] mercutio: a few [17:03] brycec: lol [17:03] did anyone notice a diff? [17:03] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:07] * RandalSchwartz particulates [17:20] what - there's something new to try here? :) [17:21] :o [17:31] RandalSchwartz: i think you have to make a request before up_the_irons goes to datacentre [17:32] although maybe he's plugged in all the hosts to it now [17:32] mercutio: nope, it's all done :) [17:32] but from my understanding, some people are having their /30 shifted to the new router, which terminates on gigabit rather than 100 megabit [17:32] up_the_irons: ahh cool [17:33] mercutio: i can re-terminate vlans to the new switch all remotely [17:33] hmm [17:33] but i have bgp so it's complicated for me :( [17:36] make a request about what? [17:36] where would I have learned abut this? [17:36] oh! [17:36] mercutio: yeah i know, still need to figure out what to do about that [17:36] RandalSchwartz: only by lerking in here. i haven't officially announced anything. [17:36] ok [17:37] would I have to have new settings for my /etc/rc.conf? [17:37] like for ipv6? [17:38] mercutio: first thought would be to open 2nd session on new router. those with bgp should actually desire 2 sessions if they want true redundancy. i'd announce a default route downstream from both. in this case, bgp customers would have vlan active on both switches.. i guess... gotta figure that out still (don't want to create a loop) [17:38] RandalSchwartz: no changes necessary on your side [17:38] but of course all this reminds me that before I can install my next package, I have to upgraded from perl 5.10 to something that is actually supported. :) [17:38] up_the_irons: i assume you don't want to allocate another vlan to the other switch [17:39] shoemaker's children and all that [17:40] i assume with one vlan the way to go would to have the vlan not joining between the two routers. [17:40] mercutio: that is a possibility actually. with new IP block. [17:40] hmm [17:40] there's also the possibility of using /31s. [17:41] mercutio: indeed, can't join between routers, but on vm hosts there is a bridge. need to test if this would be a problem. [17:41] i dunno if you'll run out of ip's or vlans first. [17:42] probably IPs :) [17:42] damn this ip starvation [17:42] esp. if I get a 2nd location going and put a /22 or something over there [17:42] up_the_irons: if you're only putting a /22 in second location, then testing /31s is probably prudent. [17:43] well if wanting to ahve more than 250 customers in other location [17:43] that said, if you have two locations then having a /24 anycast between the two would be cool. [17:43] no idea how much demand though [17:45] and it's a bit complicated if people want proper redundancy for it [17:45] mercutio: i have had a couple rare inquiries for anycast services. good thing about anycast is you can charge a lot ;) [17:45] up_the_irons: heh [17:45] yeah ppl pay big bucks for that kind of redundancy [17:45] interesting. [17:45] * up_the_irons emails himself a feature request ("Anycast Services") ;) [17:46] i suppose i'm more of an engineer than sales droid. [17:46] i see it more as a cool thing to do :) [17:46] it looked liek the second location may be a joke before when i read about it [17:46] something about some holiday checking out datacentres. [17:46] but it's pretty likely ? [17:47] i also think of it more of as "a cool thing to do"; getting paid for it is just a nice side effect ;) [17:48] the 2nd location is no joke, but it's also not close. very likely a 2014 endeavor. [17:48] i found some kind of limited bgp daemon without forwarding that made it easy to do any cast type things before [17:48] can't find it now though [17:48] ahh ok [17:48] well it's already half way through 2013, and xmas seemed liek a few weeks ago :) [17:48] yup srsly [17:49] i think i found something diff from last time heh [17:49] ahh found the original thing [17:49] exabgp [17:51] basically it makes it easy to do things like withdraw route when a daemon isn't, inject it when it is etc [17:52] which means if you have a tunnel between multiple locations, or multiple hosts within oen location should be able to have multiple hosts serve the same ip [17:52] for a service [17:52] and just advertise it as a /32 [17:52] of course there is the bgp complication [17:53] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:54] heh, i don't think i've ever seen so many security vulnerabilities in a row.. the X library stuff effects heaps of packages on ubuntu [17:55] yes [17:55] my inbox was flooded with DSAs [17:57] same here [17:58] oh it seems exabgp has an ubuntu pacakge [18:00] *** teneightypea has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:00] *** teneightypea has joined #arpnetworks [18:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:25] oh, freenode is being ddos'ed again [18:48] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [18:57] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:00] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [19:11] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:20] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:22] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:42] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:57] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [20:22] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [20:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [21:04] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [21:13] *** teneightypea has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [21:14] *** teneightypea has joined #arpnetworks [21:50] *** phyburn_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:34] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:36] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [23:25] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks