#arpnetworks 2013-06-03,Mon

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vinhello anyone up in here? any admins if available?
i need help
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hazardousup_the_irons: is it possible to join some vlans togehter from different customers?
also, got any stock on say, five e3 dedis
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staticsafeo_o
hazardous: probably should e-mail
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hazardoushi staticsafe !
what's up
lol one box is no longer enough for me
10:26AM up 95 days, 17:40, 2 users, load averages: 47.63, 94.86, 80.16
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staticsafenice [15:42]
toddfhazardous: I would think the easiest proposition wrt multiple customers and multiple vlans is to somehow secure permission from two customers involved to have an extra nic on the other's vlan. email support@ of course for any official answers ;-) [15:45]
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up_the_ironshazardous: not currently possible to join vlans; while what toddf would technically be feasible, the admin overhead (e.g. no way for me to track that currently) is not worth it
hazardous: i actually do have exactly 5 e3 dedis left
hazardous: but depending on ram req's, i may have to order more (as well as HDs)
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mhoranOh hey I remember asking for that feature. :) [16:30]
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hazardousup_the_irons: the vlans are pretty much the same situation i'd be in right now -- separate customers paying me to admin a box for them and provide a SaaS more or less, so i'd have portal logins for both [16:36]
mercutioup_the_irons: wouldn't it be simpler to have an extra shared vlan? [16:37]
up_the_ironsmercutio: probably true
hazardous: so yeah, separate customers would mean separate vlans
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hazardousdoes network traffic that goes through switches but never leaves arp cost money? [16:39]
mercutiomaybe there should be a standard shared vlan people can join :)
so not quite private
but just not internet
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hazardousi'm actually surprised i'm somehow pushing 70mbit of http json gzipped trafifc [16:42]
up_the_ironshazardous: depends how much traffic; if it were enough to require infrastructure upgrades, then yes [16:42]
mercutiohazardous: wow [16:42]
hazardousup_the_irons: not much, prob <3-5mbit between servers [16:42]
mercutiowith expires set? [16:42]
hazardousmercutio: it's api traffic, clients don't respect expire or anything
consumed by android apps and stuff
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mercutioahh
must be lots of clients
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up_the_ironshazardous: that would not be costly, no [16:44]
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jbergstroemhazardous: auth stuff or perhaps eligible for cdn ~1min cache? [17:00]
hazardousjbergstroem: i use redis+varnish for 'cache', but data changes within 3sec [17:01]
jbergstroemok [17:02]
hazardousi'm looking for a nosql db atm actually, any recommendations on that [17:02]
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jbergstroemnot really. i try to avoid stuff like mongodb, just denormalise stuff in postgres if i need speed and serialise it into redis [17:09]
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mike-burnshazardous: "nosql db" is vague. What data are you looking to store?
Will postgres's HStore handle it? How about Redis? Cassandra?
Or do you need to search graphs? In that case I'd recommend Neo4J.
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hazardousi'm storing json documents
5-15mb sized json documents
my first thought was postgres json(?) type but it was kinda .. urgh
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