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[11:46] ugh [11:53] Well, my billing went through [11:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [11:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [11:57] "that time of the month again" [12:06] *** deXar has joined #arpnetworks [12:06] *** deXar has quit IRC (Changing host) [12:06] *** deXar has joined #arpnetworks [12:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [12:16] lol [12:25] Do any of you host your own e-mail? [12:25] yes [12:25] i do [12:26] me too [12:26] me too [12:27] well - I mean, at a machine at arp [12:27] not at home :) [12:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [12:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [12:34] i do too [12:36] Me also [12:41] phlux - why the question? [12:42] Whoops [12:42] I'm just wondering what people do for redundancy [12:42] Is there some sort of guide for setting up backup mail servers? [12:43] For me, my ARP VPS is the backup MX [12:43] phlux: lower preference MX as relay host [12:43] there are some guides out there.. it's pretty simple with postfix [12:44] aye, I use postfix myself [12:44] I'll look into it more. Thanks. Glad it can be done easily [12:45] np [12:45] backup MXes are not needed these days [12:46] unless your primary is down for > 5 days, which is unlikely... [12:48] indeed [12:49] Why is that? [12:50] mail servers retry [12:51] if you have a temporary outage you won't be losing any mail [12:52] indeed [12:52] not like the old days where UUCP might happen once a day. :) [12:52] or you needed a backup mx because you couldn't have split-horizon DNS [12:52] Nice [12:52] in fact, if you have a backup mx, you'll very likely just get tons of spam there. [12:53] most spammers use the backup mx figuring it'll be configured more openly [12:53] I even wrote a spamtrap system using that [12:53] was called clever by my fellow spam fighters [12:53] hah i have a backup MX it has the same configuration for postscreen and RBLs [12:53] about half my incoming traffic was diverted to the backup mx :) [12:53] i barely get spam [12:54] I use mailroute.info now [12:54] I do no local spamfighting any more [12:55] though i only use this address for mailing lists, so the spam I get is through those mailing lists [12:56] mailroute is interesting [13:06] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [13:10] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [14:04] so have any of you seen the 10th kingdom? [14:17] *** CaZe has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:23] *** CaZe` has joined #arpnetworks [14:23] *** CaZe` is now known as CaZe [14:53] I watched a half an episode of that, and stopped [14:54] didn't even remember that's what it was called, but the googles helped me [15:33] yeah I don't like it either [15:33] but my wife does [15:33] and I just noticed a huge plot hole [15:33] now she's all mad at me [15:34] "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS OVER-ANALYZE SHIT?" [15:42] heh [15:52] "let me think about that for a moment..." :) [15:53] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:00] that would mean the couch for him tonight ;) [16:00] damn that would've been a great answer.. 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