#arpnetworks 2013-06-01,Sat

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up_the_ironsbilling, wee... [11:45]
phluxugh [11:46]
Well, my billing went through [11:53]
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RandalSchwartz"that time of the month again" [11:57]
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up_the_ironslol [12:16]
phluxDo any of you host your own e-mail? [12:25]
staticsafeyes
i do
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antme too [12:26]
RandalSchwartzme too
well - I mean, at a machine at arp
not at home :)
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up_the_ironsi do too [12:34]
plettMe also [12:36]
RandalSchwartzphlux - why the question? [12:41]
phluxWhoops
I'm just wondering what people do for redundancy
Is there some sort of guide for setting up backup mail servers?
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plettFor me, my ARP VPS is the backup MX [12:43]
up_the_ironsphlux: lower preference MX as relay host
there are some guides out there.. it's pretty simple with postfix
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phluxaye, I use postfix myself
I'll look into it more. Thanks. Glad it can be done easily
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up_the_ironsnp [12:45]
staticsafebackup MXes are not needed these days [12:45]
up_the_ironsunless your primary is down for > 5 days, which is unlikely... [12:46]
staticsafeindeed [12:48]
phluxWhy is that? [12:49]
staticsafemail servers retry
if you have a temporary outage you won't be losing any mail
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RandalSchwartzindeed
not like the old days where UUCP might happen once a day. :)
or you needed a backup mx because you couldn't have split-horizon DNS
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phluxNice [12:52]
RandalSchwartzin fact, if you have a backup mx, you'll very likely just get tons of spam there.
most spammers use the backup mx figuring it'll be configured more openly
I even wrote a spamtrap system using that
was called clever by my fellow spam fighters
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staticsafehah i have a backup MX it has the same configuration for postscreen and RBLs [12:53]
RandalSchwartzabout half my incoming traffic was diverted to the backup mx :) [12:53]
staticsafei barely get spam [12:53]
RandalSchwartzI use mailroute.info now
I do no local spamfighting any more
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staticsafethough i only use this address for mailing lists, so the spam I get is through those mailing lists
mailroute is interesting
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phluxso have any of you seen the 10th kingdom? [14:04]
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RandalSchwartzI watched a half an episode of that, and stopped
didn't even remember that's what it was called, but the googles helped me
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phluxyeah I don't like it either
but my wife does
and I just noticed a huge plot hole
now she's all mad at me
"WHY DO YOU ALWAYS OVER-ANALYZE SHIT?"
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staticsafeheh [15:42]
RandalSchwartz"let me think about that for a moment..." :) [15:52]
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staticsafethat would mean the couch for him tonight ;) [16:00]
phluxdamn that would've been a great answer.. [16:00]
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