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up_the_irons: billing, wee...
phlux: ugh
Well, my billing went through
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RandalSchwartz: "that time of the month again"
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up_the_irons: lol
phlux: Do any of you host your own e-mail?
staticsafe: yes
i do
ant: me too
RandalSchwartz: me too
well - I mean, at a machine at arp
not at home :)
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up_the_irons: i do too
plett: Me also
RandalSchwartz: phlux - why the question?
phlux: Whoops
I'm just wondering what people do for redundancy
Is there some sort of guide for setting up backup mail servers?
plett: For me, my ARP VPS is the backup MX
up_the_irons: phlux: lower preference MX as relay host
there are some guides out there.. it's pretty simple with postfix
phlux: aye, I use postfix myself
I'll look into it more. Thanks. Glad it can be done easily
up_the_irons: np
staticsafe: backup MXes are not needed these days
up_the_irons: unless your primary is down for > 5 days, which is unlikely...
staticsafe: indeed
phlux: Why is that?
staticsafe: mail servers retry
if you have a temporary outage you won't be losing any mail
RandalSchwartz: indeed
not like the old days where UUCP might happen once a day. :)
or you needed a backup mx because you couldn't have split-horizon DNS
phlux: Nice
RandalSchwartz: in fact, if you have a backup mx, you'll very likely just get tons of spam there.
most spammers use the backup mx figuring it'll be configured more openly
I even wrote a spamtrap system using that
was called clever by my fellow spam fighters
staticsafe: hah i have a backup MX it has the same configuration for postscreen and RBLs
RandalSchwartz: about half my incoming traffic was diverted to the backup mx :)
staticsafe: i barely get spam
RandalSchwartz: I use mailroute.info now
I do no local spamfighting any more
staticsafe: though i only use this address for mailing lists, so the spam I get is through those mailing lists
mailroute is interesting
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phlux: so have any of you seen the 10th kingdom?
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RandalSchwartz: I watched a half an episode of that, and stopped
didn't even remember that's what it was called, but the googles helped me
phlux: yeah I don't like it either
but my wife does
and I just noticed a huge plot hole
now she's all mad at me
"WHY DO YOU ALWAYS OVER-ANALYZE SHIT?"
staticsafe: heh
RandalSchwartz: "let me think about that for a moment..." :)
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staticsafe: that would mean the couch for him tonight ;)
phlux: damn that would've been a great answer..
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