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sorressean: do most bsd people actually run sh as default? I was going to learn it if it's the usual, but I'm not seeing much about PS1 variables like you'd get with bash.
I want to learn sysadmin bsd stuff, so I was trying to do the norm. I miss my working dir being shown though.
toddf: try ksh (on OpenBSD), I use it over bash now
mike-burns: I use zsh for my user accounts. Boring minimalist systems just get sh or ksh though.
sorressean: heh nods, thanks.
I want to become fluent with whatever the basic install gives you in case I can't go install my own shell
mike-burns: You can set $PS1 in sh.
sorressean: You can, but it's not using dynamic vars. the .shrc does like `whoami` etc. Not really a way to append the working dir to that.
apparently tcsh was already installed though. not sure if that was an arpnetworks deal or if that's freebsd.
does that come preinstalled on openbsd as well?
mike-burns: http://bit.ly/10qsbpV - some docs for you, from FreeBSD.
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sorressean: mike-burns: yeah, I seen that. it shows nothing else gets installed by default, but I have tcsh. I guess it's one of the arpnetworks ports.
regardless, I'll use csh since it's what I have.
mike-burns: tcsh isn't even in the ports tree. Pretty sure it's default.
twobithacker: tcsh is in FreeBSD's base install
nesta: sh is hardcore, use tcsh/csh its a part of the base system, as twobithacker has stated
up_the_irons: sorressean: bash and zsh are the most common these days
i use bash
plett: sorressean: I'm a Linux person rather than BSD and have always used bash. I've had to maintain (t)csh scripts though, and hated them. I would recommend bash or zsh instead if you don't have a pressing need to use csh
pjs: I love tcsh.. but recently switched to bash after a decade+ on tcsh. Mainly because most new tools are designed with bash. In my case, virtualenv and fabric had issues with tcsh.
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degyves: Can I install DragonFlyBSD?
up_the_irons: degyves: yeah, just email support to mount the ISO you want
degyves: thnks ppl
bye
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phlux: up_the_irons: How can I go about getting more RAM and an extra core or 3 for my VPS?
up_the_irons: phlux: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/how-do-i-upgrade-or-downgrade-my-vps
phlux: ah that figures :P
up_the_irons: :)
phlux: My brother just quoted what I guess is Iron Maiden in another IRC channel and it made me think of #arpnetworks
15:30:09 phr0z3n │ IF HE WOULD HAVE LIVED HE WOULD HAVE CRUCIFIED US ALLLLLL
15:30:14 phr0z3n │ UP THE IRONS!!!!!!!!!
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up_the_irons: lol
Children of the Damned -- Iron Maiden
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anisfarhana: Hiya everyone
staticsafe: hi
anisfarhana: Howdy staticsafe
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