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| deXar | Hello everyone. I have to set timezone in php.ini, don't know about the VPS's location, so what to set? Any idea? Thanks. | [02:50] |
| LEMONed | enter ur IP http://www.iplocation.net/ | [02:57] |
| mike-burns | The VPS is in LA. I always set TZ to UTC. | [02:58] |
| deXar | Thanks. | [02:58] |
| mike-burns | Running `date` will tell you the TZ your computer is set to, too. | [02:59] |
| deXar | I did that, it gives PDT.
$ date Thu May 16 02:57:12 PDT 2013 $ date -u Thu May 16 09:57:24 UTC 2013 Which one is right? | [02:59] |
| mike-burns | They're both off by three minutes.
But the server that your VPS is on is physically sitting in PDT. | [03:00] |
| deXar | as "02:57" and "09:57" regarding its location.
Oh, I see. Thanks. | [03:00] |
| mike-burns | But you can set it to anything you want. | [03:01] |
| deXar | Well, personally setting an incorrect date/time gave me lots of headaches in the past. Conflicts, failed-updates, et cetera. | [03:02] |
| mike-burns | Sorry, I meant that you can set your computer's time to anything you want. If `date` reports PDT, you should set php.ini to PDT. | [03:03] |
| deXar | Ah it's ok. Done, thanks again. | [03:04] |
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| toddf | hmm, never knew timezone was in php.ini, I've simply placed a 'localtime' file in $CHROOT/etc to fix the timezone bits .. ;-) | [07:39] |
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| brycec | toddf: In recent years, PHP belches an ugly error about being unable to guess the timezone and that you should set one in the php.ini file. Example: http://drupal.org/node/630972
"warning: date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings..." | [09:07] |
| toddf | that is a symptom of a bigger propblem, namely, 'this system cant be trusted to be adminned properly so I must have my own knob to further obfuscate any system configuration that must be done'
*sigh* | [09:09] |
| brycec | heh, or maybe there's a better/legit reason. I dunno. | [09:09] |
| toddf | guess I'll get to do that when I update to 5.3
sorry, if the system timezone is not trusted, I can see no other reason to require this than lets further obfuscate the administration of the system coming from a 'lets simplify things' perspective (openbsd) this seems insanely backwards | [09:09] |
| staticsafe | its PHP... | [09:11] |
| mike-burns | A lot goes into making PHP the least respected programming language. | [09:11] |
| brycec | It's not like PHP isn't using the same tzdata, right? So no idea why it wouldn't "trust" it.
lol mike-burns | [09:11] |
| toddf | [Date]
; Defines the default timezone used by the date functions ; http://php.net/date.timezone ;date.timezone = thats in openbsd's default php-5.3.24 install hmm, now to figure out how to test someone throw me a basic php line that would generate the above warning supposedly? n/m just calling 'echo date();' is enough and indeed it generates it *sigh* ahah! I found a sane default! date.timezone = /etc/localtime cha-ching! | [09:12] |
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| brycec | Whoa, didn't know you could point it at a file.
That's super-sane! Seems like something distro maintainers should be doing... (I only see that as a problem on Windows which wouldn't have an /etc/localtime) | [09:36] |
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| toddf | shout-out to awesome peering .. from my vps to losangeles.voip.ms -> round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.565/0.932/1.311/0.219 ms
6 hops seems pretty close also but anyway | [11:25] |
| staticsafe | oh nice voip.ms has Toronto server location | [11:37] |
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| brycec | woo voip.ms++!
I get about the same ping from Chunkhost too :p But two fewer hops on ARP woo | [11:52] |
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| mercutio | hop count doesn't necessarily mean much
i usually look for jitter but that doesn't necessarily mean a lot too | [12:52] |
| brycec | lower hop counts make me happier - fewer points of failure | [12:56] |
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| mercutio | yeh but often there hidden hops :/
which is worse well worse in that it's hard to know where things are breaking less visiblity it's not necessarily going to make any practical difference heh i can't dns lookup losangeles.voipms oh there it goes | [13:11] |
| staticsafe | voip.ms | [13:12] |
| mercutio | so it's quadranet then some colo switch / router then host
so if they hid that colo switch/router and had one less hop would that mkae it better there's heaps of jitter to there :/ hmm voip.ms is dns slow too i wonder if i have bigge dns issue hmm google instant | [13:12] |
| staticsafe | not seeing anything | [13:14] |
| mercutio | ahh
dig is fast mtr is slow mtr -4 voip.ms is fast mtr -6 voip.ms is slow | [13:14] |
| staticsafe | mtr -6 voip.ms doesn't work | [13:16] |
| mercutio | does it not work quickly for you? | [13:16] |
| staticsafe | voip.ms has no AAAA record | [13:16] |
| mercutio | yeah
host tells me that mtr seems to timeout instead rather than failing quickly | [13:16] |
| staticsafe | mtr fails instantly for me | [13:16] |
| mercutio | curious | [13:17] |
| staticsafe | it is also in my cache | [13:17] |
| mercutio | yeah it should be in my cache too
repeating it is slow too mtr --report --report-cycles=1 voip.ms 0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 20.839 total that's what i mean by slow :) like 20 seconds delay it seems at hoem it doesn't pause hmm but i have no ipv6 at home | [13:17] |
| ktrace/kdump seems to suggest it's dns somehow
i'm just going to assume it's some weird openbsd/mtr bug | [13:23] | |
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| bweaver1985 | question how long does it typically take to reset image back to original | [15:42] |
| up_the_irons | bweaver1985: the support queue is typically cleared every night (PST) and morning. if you want an immediate re-install, you can always do it yourself: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os | [15:45] |
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| bweaver1985 | up_the_irons, thanks. The wierd part is i already tried that since the CentOS disk is inserted but when it installed. So it boots off disk but hwne it goes to install it claims in cannot find media | [15:48] |
| up_the_irons | bweaver1985: so after you tell it to boot from the CD-ROM it then says it can't find the media? | [15:50] |
| bweaver1985 | it books to centos instraller. But when i pick installation method "Local CDROM"
"The CentOS CD was not found in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert to CentOS cd and press OK to retry | [15:50] |
| up_the_irons | wow, weird
can you tell it to do a net install? for CentOS 5.8, you tell it: * Distro source: HTTP * Web site name: mirrors.arpnetworks.com * CentOS directory: /centos/5.8/os/x86_64/ for 6.3, just use: * URL: http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/centos/6.3/os/x86_64 | [15:51] |
| bweaver1985 | k will try those. i messedup grup so i have to reinstall
thanks | [15:53] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: that is 404ing | [15:54] |
| up_the_irons | staticsafe: oh cuz 6.4 is out
s/6.3/6.4/ :) and 5.9 bweaver1985: i can do a quick reset if you want, i see your ticket in my queue | [15:55] |
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| bweaver1985 | yea, please do i just deleted ticket
lol | [15:58] |
| up_the_irons | ok, standby | [15:59] |
| bweaver1985 | was going to attempt | [15:59] |
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| up_the_irons | bweaver1985: done! use the same credentials as in your original welcome email | [16:04] |
| bweaver1985 | thanks | [16:04] |
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| hazardous | hi!! | [18:48] |
| staticsafe | hi hazardous | [18:48] |
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| hazardous | hey does anyone know what this means [6735278.595932] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 1920026624
it looks like /dev/sdb got forcedropped out of my swraid | [19:57] |
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