#arpnetworks 2013-05-03,Fri

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mikeputnamRIP Jeff Hanneman - Slayer :( [06:43]
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cam13_hello
was checking out the website and the different offers on VPS. I see a monthly subscription scheme only. Do you accept upfront payment of 12 months? if so, would you give a % off ?
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guess i found the answer.. hidden in the "view more" of the billing section :D --> http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance [07:46]
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up_the_ironscam13_: i should probably make that more prominent on the website [11:37]
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nestaup_the_irons: is it possible to get a VPS with 2 ipv4 ips? [11:51]
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up_the_ironsnesta: possible options are: /30 IP block (1 IP), /29 IP block (5 IPs) [12:50]
nestaok
figured so
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phluxAdded some color to my i3bar via conky: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/sheez2.png
Also, thanks to conky, I got to add an ${if_mpd_playing} clause
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aslrCool colors, phlux. [15:23]
phluxThanks [15:23]
nestawhat OS? [15:23]
phluxnesta: Gentoo Linux [15:24]
nestacool
I like your choice of music :-)
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phluxHaha, thanks [15:24]
aslrAt first I didn't copy the link correctly and got the nginx 404 page and thought I had a bad link to my own site in the clipboard for a second.
How "clean" is the code of i3?
Have you looked at it, phlux? I currently use dwm and it's horrible, code-wise, I've been meaning to re-write it but haven't had the time.
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phluxI honestly haven't, but it works well enough here. [15:28]
aslrWow, ~700KB of code.
Large codebase for a simplistic tiling WM.
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phluxI don't really consider 700kb "large," but to each his own :)
but I'm guessing that also includes i3bar, so that could factor in to it
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aslrWell, dwm is about 10KB.
So, yeah.
Sorry, 55KB for the .c file, uncompressed.
But I think I have a patched version.
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nestawhat OS do you use, aslr ? [15:35]
aslrnesta: Slackware.
You?
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nestaOSX and FreeBSD [15:36]
aslrBleh, OS X. How can you stand it? I had to use it for a few months when I did Obj-C development, and it was pretty bad. Resource heavy and the weird, non-standard stuff gets in the way. [15:38]
nestait works for me. [15:39]
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jbergstroemos x and iterm. mostly because text rendering is hard to cope with in any other os (in browsers, not the termianl) [15:56]
aslrOS X has the sketchiest font rending to me. [15:58]
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jbergstroemso, blue or black shed? :) [16:32]
mercutioon that note does anyone know a good terminal for X ?
gnome-terminal seems bloaty and slow, xterm flickers when it scrolls, and roxterm is like gnome-terminal with tabs
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JC`urxvt [16:43]
phlux^
that's what i'm using in the above screenshot
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mercutioit doesn't flicker
it has gandish default colours though
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HighJinxosx isn't half as bad as windows [17:17]
mercutioit's 3x as gad
bad
:/
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HighJinxo.O guess it all depends on what you do on it [17:18]
mercutioi'm quite liking doing the windows/linux synergy dance
with one monitor on each
well macos doesn't play games
and it's got a horrible ui :/
you have to screw around with scripts to make it so you can do multiple desktops perly
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HighJinxto each their own i guess, i mainly dev in osx [17:18]
mercutioproperly
or you open a new terminal, and it's in the same desktop as the old terminal!
for dev linux should be easier
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phluxthat depends on what you're developing for honestly
if he's designing iOS apps, of course OSX would be better
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jbergstroemclang and dtrace through os x is a pretty strong benefit [17:23]
phluxi personally won't ever use osx [17:24]
HighJinxits based on freebsd, as long as you don't look at the ui its fairly similar :P [17:25]
phluxno
no it isn't
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jbergstroemguys can we please avoid this discussion in this channel? :) [17:25]
phluxjbergstroem: feel free to /ignore all involved parties.
since irc is so srs to you
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mercutiolinux changes fonts quite a bit i find
like that urxvt has some horrid font
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phlux...
so change it?
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mercutiobut it's some default [17:26]
jbergstroemphlux: was more thinking about topic relevance - but point taken [17:26]
mercutioyeh not sure how phlux
probably similar to xterm
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phluxjbergstroem: Oh, so sorry to interrupt all of the on-topic chatter going on in here. Please forgive us. [17:27]
mercutiowhereas gnome-terminal etc use gnome defaults
what's the topic ?
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phluxmercutio: You google for .Xdefaults urxvt settings, or you man urxvt.. [17:27]
mercutioi don't think it really matters too much to stray a little jbergstroem ... it keeps the channel active if someone does have a problem/question
although i suppose it gives up_the_irons lots of scrollback to parse through
ahh that's like xterm
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phluxMeh, support should be handled via ticket
IRC should simply be a secondary mechanism
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jbergstroemmercutio: you and i usually stray somewhat, so i'm as guilty as anyone else. i've just seen too many os wars on irc [17:28]
mercutiophlux: true
jbergstroem: true
i remember the amiga/dos flamewars
weird, i have to use 12 point size in gnome-terminal and 16 in urxvt to get similar size
oh point versus pixel i think it is
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jbergstroemhave you perhaps tried source sans pro from adobe? it's been working pretty well for me: https://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html
sorry, the monospaced font is called source code pro: https://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/09/source-code-pro.html
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mercutioi started using consolas in windows but linux doesn't seem to have it [17:39]
phluxterminus with appropriate patches here. [17:39]
mercutioi wonder if ubuntu has it [17:40]
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