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aslr: can you point me to an example of Amazon's one? surprisingly, google images does not show any when I search "powered by ec2"
oh i may have found some... ***: LT has joined #arpnetworks
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but that was like an hour or more ago LT: would have been 2 hours ago, so that's probably it
any reason you use bpdu guard rather than bpdu filter on those ports? up_the_irons: LT: if there's a potential loop, i want the port to go down instead of melt the switch -: up_the_irons calls it a night LT: just didn't think it was very likely for the server itself to be a loop... ***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) mohaslan: hi, does arpnetworks have an option like softlayer's global ip? RandalSchwartz: "global ip"? brycec: What's "global ip?" RandalSchwartz: a description, or a url with a description, would help me. :) mercutio: anycast RandalSchwartz: maybe he's talking about a CDN mercutio: i imagine brycec: (a.k.a. their website is slow to load)
http://blog.softlayer.com/2012/global-ip-addresses-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work/ RandalSchwartz: you could always use cloudflare for free :) mercutio: static routing
ok this global ip isn't as cool as i thought it was brycec: mohaslan: Seeing as ARP Networks only has one datacenter, there's no point in "global ip" (a.k.a. Anycast)
(if that's what it is) RandalSchwartz: ... https://www.cloudflare.com/overview mercutio: it's not anycast brycec
arp already do it
from their description RandalSchwartz: bottom plan is free - https://www.cloudflare.com/plans -: brycec stands corrected mercutio: you can move ip's between multiple vm's.
because each user has their own vlan
RandalSchwartz: nooooo
RandalSchwartz: don't tell people to use cloudflare, it slows down the internet staticsafe: wat RandalSchwartz: the *whole* internet? :) mercutio: well sites that move staticsafe: thats a broad statement mercutio: i'm like why's this site started slowing down
do a trace... cloudflare...
oh god damnit! not again staticsafe: i don't notice anything on cloudflare sites? mercutio: maybe you have a better cdn host for your area or something staticsafe: yes I'm in Toronto
there better be good CDNs here brycec: lol mercutio: heh brycec: Yeah, NZ gets crap when it comes to CDN's mercutio: cachefly is good here
nz get's some cdn's.
but push cdn's are better than pull cdn's. brycec: Then again, NZ gets crap compared to other parts of the world :p mercutio: in general
well NZ gets good speeds to san jose and los angeles normally at least
cloudflare has added a sydney node
i dunno if that'll help or make things worse brycec: Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I don't think it's what mercutio was getting at either. Global IP is targeted at those that want to have an IP address and point it at any machine in any DC. And again, since ARP has just the one DC, it's not an issue mohaslan mohaslan: sorry, I missed the part ;) brycec: (And SoftLayer could have explained it much, much clearer IMHO) mercutio: brycec: they wanted to make it sound fancy brycec: Yeah... staticsafe: ENTERPRISE mercutio: my dsl ip is global :/ mohaslan: I am not looking for something across different datacenters, a simple solution in the datacenter is sufficient, you can say something more like elastic ip mercutio: i can login in different cities and it'll stay the sae staticsafe: IP Failover?
VRRP? mercutio: mohaslan: elastic?
portable ip :/ brycec: mohaslan: When you become a customer, you get your own network (it's a VLAN @ the DC level) that has a /30 pointed at it. All your VM's live in that VLAN, and you can assign the IP to any VM you want. mercutio: anyway, i'm not sure how arp works exactly with multiple ip's. brycec: mercutio: "Elastic IP" is an AWS term mercutio: brycec: aws?
awstats? brycec: Amazon.com/aws
or aws.amazon.com mercutio: oh i don't like amazon brycec: lol mercutio: so sorry if i don't know their buzzwords. brycec: I was going to say - you kiwis are seeeeriously out of touch if you don't know about AWS mercutio: i had a friend with an instance
i kept telling him it was shit
and he should move off it
he kept saying how cheap it was -: brycec waits for the punchline mercutio: i'm like "it's not normal behaviour that when you do a batch job of mysql queries you can't run top because the load has skyrockted" mohaslan: brycec: thanks. I got it now :) mercutio: so he gets a 3x as expensive plan or something
because apparently amazon severely throttle disk i/o on smaller plans
and it's "better" brycec: heh, well you're not "supposed" to run MySQL in your instance. You're "supposed" to use an RDS (their hosted MySQL) mercutio: but it's expensive and it's still no better than a normal vps.
yeh
i think that's what he wnated to do "at some stage"
it was also laggy
and slow and blah brycec: Also, Amazon does have some serious disk IO issues across all instances (they recently introduced some "guaranteed IOPS" plans though) mercutio: brycec: well this was acceptable for a $3/month plan or something
but it wasn't a $3/month plan brycec: I tried using an instance as a VPS for awhile (you get the first year of a "micro" instance free), but that's not what it's designed for mercutio: i dunno why he's so keen on amazon
i checked out joyent the other day brycec: AWS instances are meant to be ephemeral, provisioned on the fly and torn-down when done. They're not "long term servers" staticsafe: ^ mercutio: they do linux but you can't get a console
and i'm like what?!
disk performance was real good brycec: My EBS disks would frequently toast itself, and I'd have to reinstall :( mercutio: otherwise seemed average.
it's in oakland apparently
wherever that is :/
but ping is ok from here brycec: mercutio: California, North of Los Angeles mercutio: ok brycec: (Right next to San Francisco)
(but I don't know how much US geography you know... so I related it to ARP and LA) mercutio: heh
i know more than i used to
the other day i was wondering where that place that new fb dc was is brycec: Well good for you mercutio: iowa.
but generally you hear about some places way more than others brycec: Middle of the country, middle of nowhere too.
Quite true. mercutio: wlel i never hear about iowa
but i know where san jose and los angeles are brycec: I suspect 1/3 of the US population doesn't really know where Iowa is. mercutio: heh
is it part of the bible belt? brycec: (and of that 1/3, half are in Iowa already *rimshot*)
A bit west of it mercutio: by kansas? brycec: Iowa is under "dwes" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_383FujfEbkY/S9VzXNnGRXI/AAAAAAAAAV4/WxT-jgyAlYw/s1600/usa_bible_belt.png mercutio: bah
by chicago
wow
i didn't realise the bible belt was so big brycec: (and I was wrong, North, not West of the belt) mercutio: i was thinking east when you said west anyway i think
i dunno :/ brycec: (I visualize the belt as running North-South... I was wrong) mercutio: is flordia part of the bible belt? brycec: mercutio: only a bit of it... By and large, no.
(That graphic is generous, I'd say) mercutio: ahh ok brycec: Only the pan-handle of Florida would be considered bible-belt mercutio: i did google iowa brycec: (or whatever the top piece of FL is called) mercutio: there were semi-naked runners for some university fundraiser or something
seemed small-townish :/
if that's like one of the news items brycec: you're not wrong
Iowa is 95% farm-land, known for growing corn. mercutio: oh staticsafe: wait is Iowa the American heartland? brycec: geographically? I guess mercutio: wow RandalSchwartz: New Orleans is American liverland mercutio: this place is freezing -: brycec is not a fan of Iowa, for the record. RandalSchwartz: James T. Kirk is from Iowa. He only *works* in space. brycec: ^^ Iowa's only redeeming characteristic. staticsafe: hah brycec: They have a party or something every year for his bday too ***: BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks brycec: @google Iowa James T Kirk day BryceBot: 533,000 total results returned for 'Iowa James T Kirk day', here's 3
James T. Kirk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_T._Kirk) James T. Kirk was born on March 22, 2233 in Riverside, Iowa. .... of divergence between The Original Series and the film occurs on the day of Kirk's birth in 2233.
Future Birthplace of James T. Kirk, Riverside, Iowa - Roadside America (http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2081) James T. Kirk, captain of the starship Enterprise, will be born in Riverside on ... as an Iowa reaper blade; the Trek Fest souvenir catalogue offers vials of Kirk Dirt, .... without notice, so call ahead before driving 100 miles and ruining your day.
Riverside, Iowa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside,_Iowa) Riverside is a city in rural Washington County, Iowa, United States, along the English ... Riverside proclaimed itself the future birthplace of Captain James T. Kirk, ... ***: BryceBot has left brycec: close enough
"Trek Fest" I guess it's called
oh my, after 5 already, better get home... -: RandalSchwartz won't be home for 8 days ***: mnathani has joined #arpnetworks
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