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[00:34] <up_the_irons> aslr: dr_jkl : i do not, but good idea!
[00:37] <up_the_irons> aslr: can you point me to an example of Amazon's one?  surprisingly, google images does not show any when I search "powered by ec2"
[00:39] <up_the_irons> oh i may have found some...
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[01:37] <LT> hrmm anyone else having issues reaching their VPS at the minute?
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[03:30] <up_the_irons> LT: kvr08 NIC bounced a few times b/c of a stp bpdu guard (error in our fw leaked bpdu's)
[03:30] <up_the_irons> but that was like an hour or more ago
[03:33] <LT> would have been 2 hours ago, so that's probably it
[03:35] <LT> any reason you use bpdu guard rather than bpdu filter on those ports?
[03:47] <up_the_irons> LT: if there's a potential loop, i want the port to go down instead of melt the switch
[03:48] * up_the_irons calls it a night
[03:50] <LT> just didn't think it was very likely for the server itself to be a loop...
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[16:49] <mohaslan> hi, does arpnetworks have an option like softlayer's global ip?
[16:55] <RandalSchwartz> "global ip"?
[16:56] <brycec> What's "global ip?"
[16:56] <RandalSchwartz> a description, or a url with a description, would help me. :)
[16:56] <mercutio> anycast
[16:56] <RandalSchwartz> maybe he's talking about a CDN
[16:56] <mercutio> i imagine
[16:56] <brycec> (a.k.a. their website is slow to load)
[16:56] <brycec> http://blog.softlayer.com/2012/global-ip-addresses-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work/
[16:57] <RandalSchwartz> you could always use cloudflare for free :)
[16:57] <mercutio> static routing
[16:57] <mercutio> ok this global ip isn't as cool as i thought it was
[16:57] <brycec> mohaslan: Seeing as ARP Networks only has one datacenter, there's no point in "global ip" (a.k.a. Anycast)
[16:58] <brycec> (if that's what it is)
[16:58] <RandalSchwartz> ... https://www.cloudflare.com/overview
[16:58] <mercutio> it's not anycast brycec
[16:58] <mercutio> arp already do it
[16:58] <mercutio> from their description
[16:58] <RandalSchwartz> bottom plan is free - https://www.cloudflare.com/plans
[16:58] * brycec stands corrected
[16:58] <mercutio> you can move ip's between multiple vm's.
[16:58] <mercutio> because each user has their own vlan
[16:59] <mercutio> RandalSchwartz: nooooo
[16:59] <mercutio> RandalSchwartz: don't tell people to use cloudflare, it slows down the internet
[16:59] <staticsafe> wat
[16:59] <RandalSchwartz> the *whole* internet? :)
[16:59] <mercutio> well sites that move
[16:59] <staticsafe> thats a broad statement
[16:59] <mercutio> i'm like why's this site started slowing down
[16:59] <mercutio> do a trace... cloudflare...
[16:59] <mercutio> oh god damnit!  not again
[16:59] <staticsafe> i don't notice anything on cloudflare sites?
[17:00] <mercutio> maybe you have a better cdn host for your area or something
[17:00] <staticsafe> yes I'm in Toronto
[17:00] <staticsafe> there better be good CDNs here
[17:00] <brycec> lol
[17:00] <mercutio> heh
[17:00] <brycec> Yeah, NZ gets crap when it comes to CDN's
[17:00] <mercutio> cachefly is good here
[17:00] <mercutio> nz get's some cdn's.
[17:00] <mercutio> but push cdn's are better than pull cdn's.
[17:00] <brycec> Then again, NZ gets crap compared to other parts of the world :p
[17:00] <mercutio> in general
[17:01] <mercutio> well NZ gets good speeds to san jose and los angeles normally at least
[17:02] <mercutio> cloudflare has added a sydney node
[17:02] <mercutio> i dunno if that'll help or make things worse
[17:02] <brycec> Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I don't think it's what mercutio was getting at either. Global IP is targeted at those that want to have an IP address and point it at any machine in any DC. And again, since ARP has just the one DC, it's not an issue mohaslan
[17:02] <mohaslan> sorry, I missed the part ;)
[17:03] <brycec> (And SoftLayer could have explained it much, much clearer IMHO)
[17:03] <mercutio> brycec: they wanted to make it sound fancy
[17:03] <brycec> Yeah...
[17:03] <staticsafe> ENTERPRISE
[17:03] <mercutio> my dsl ip is global :/
[17:03] <mohaslan> I am not looking for something across different datacenters, a simple solution in the datacenter is sufficient, you can say something more like elastic ip
[17:03] <mercutio> i can login in different cities and it'll stay the sae
[17:03] <staticsafe> IP Failover?
[17:03] <staticsafe> VRRP?
[17:03] <mercutio> mohaslan: elastic?
[17:04] <mercutio> portable ip :/
[17:04] <brycec> mohaslan: When you become a customer, you get your own network (it's a VLAN @ the DC level) that has a /30 pointed at it. All your VM's live in that VLAN, and you can assign the IP to any VM you want.
[17:04] <mercutio> anyway, i'm not sure how arp works exactly with multiple ip's.
[17:04] <brycec> mercutio: "Elastic IP" is an AWS term
[17:05] <mercutio> brycec: aws?
[17:05] <mercutio> awstats?
[17:05] <brycec> Amazon.com/aws
[17:05] <brycec> or aws.amazon.com
[17:05] <mercutio> oh i don't like amazon
[17:05] <brycec> lol
[17:05] <mercutio> so sorry if i don't know their buzzwords.
[17:05] <brycec> I was going to say - you kiwis are seeeeriously out of touch if you don't know about AWS
[17:05] <mercutio> i had a friend with an instance
[17:05] <mercutio> i kept telling him it was shit
[17:05] <mercutio> and he should move off it
[17:05] <mercutio> he kept saying how cheap it was
[17:06] * brycec waits for the punchline
[17:06] <mercutio> i'm like "it's not normal behaviour that when you do a batch job of mysql queries you can't run top because the load has skyrockted"
[17:06] <mohaslan> brycec: thanks. I got it now :)
[17:06] <mercutio> so he gets a 3x as expensive plan or something
[17:06] <mercutio> because apparently amazon severely throttle disk i/o on smaller plans
[17:06] <mercutio> and it's "better"
[17:06] <brycec> heh, well you're not "supposed" to run MySQL in your instance. You're "supposed" to use an RDS (their hosted MySQL)
[17:06] <mercutio> but it's expensive and it's still no better than a normal vps.
[17:07] <mercutio> yeh
[17:07] <mercutio> i think that's what he wnated to do "at some stage"
[17:07] <mercutio> it was also laggy
[17:07] <mercutio> and slow and blah
[17:07] <brycec> Also, Amazon does have some serious disk IO issues across all instances (they recently introduced some "guaranteed IOPS" plans though)
[17:07] <mercutio> brycec: well this was acceptable for a $3/month plan or something
[17:08] <mercutio> but it wasn't a $3/month plan
[17:08] <brycec> I tried using an instance as a VPS for awhile (you get the first year of a "micro" instance free), but that's not what it's designed for
[17:08] <mercutio> i dunno why he's so keen on amazon
[17:08] <mercutio> i checked out joyent the other day
[17:08] <brycec> AWS instances are meant to be ephemeral, provisioned on the fly and torn-down when done. They're not "long term servers"
[17:09] <staticsafe> ^
[17:09] <mercutio> they do linux but you can't get a console
[17:09] <mercutio> and i'm like what?!
[17:09] <mercutio> disk performance was real good
[17:09] <brycec> My EBS disks would frequently toast itself, and I'd have to reinstall :(
[17:09] <mercutio> otherwise seemed average.
[17:09] <mercutio> it's in oakland apparently
[17:09] <mercutio> wherever that is :/
[17:09] <mercutio> but ping is ok from here
[17:09] <brycec> mercutio: California, North of Los Angeles
[17:10] <mercutio> ok
[17:10] <brycec> (Right next to San Francisco)
[17:10] <brycec> (but I don't know how much US geography you know... so I related it to ARP and LA)
[17:10] <mercutio> heh
[17:10] <mercutio> i know more than i used to
[17:10] <mercutio> the other day i was wondering where that place that new fb dc was is
[17:11] <brycec> Well good for you
[17:11] <mercutio> iowa.
[17:11] <mercutio> but generally you hear about some places way more than others
[17:11] <brycec> Middle of the country, middle of nowhere too.
[17:11] <brycec> Quite true.
[17:11] <mercutio> wlel i never hear about iowa
[17:11] <mercutio> but i know where san jose and los angeles are
[17:11] <brycec> I suspect 1/3 of the US population doesn't really know where Iowa is.
[17:11] <mercutio> heh
[17:12] <mercutio> is it part of the bible belt?
[17:12] <brycec> (and of that 1/3, half are in Iowa already *rimshot*)
[17:12] <brycec> A bit west of it
[17:12] <mercutio> by kansas?
[17:13] <brycec> Iowa is under "dwes" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_383FujfEbkY/S9VzXNnGRXI/AAAAAAAAAV4/WxT-jgyAlYw/s1600/usa_bible_belt.png
[17:13] <mercutio> bah
[17:13] <mercutio> by chicago
[17:13] <mercutio> wow
[17:13] <mercutio> i didn't realise the bible belt was so big
[17:13] <brycec> (and I was wrong, North, not West of the belt)
[17:13] <mercutio> i was thinking east when you said west anyway i think
[17:14] <mercutio> i dunno :/
[17:14] <brycec> (I visualize the belt as running North-South... I was wrong)
[17:14] <mercutio> is flordia part of the bible belt?
[17:14] <brycec> mercutio: only a bit of it... By and large, no.
[17:14] <brycec> (That graphic is generous, I'd say)
[17:14] <mercutio> ahh ok
[17:14] <brycec> Only the pan-handle of Florida would be considered bible-belt
[17:14] <mercutio> i did google iowa
[17:15] <brycec> (or whatever the top piece of FL is called)
[17:15] <mercutio> there were semi-naked runners for some university fundraiser or something
[17:15] <mercutio> seemed small-townish :/
[17:15] <mercutio> if that's like one of the news items
[17:15] <brycec> you're not wrong
[17:15] <brycec> Iowa is 95% farm-land, known for growing corn.
[17:15] <mercutio> oh
[17:16] <staticsafe> wait is Iowa the American heartland?
[17:16] <brycec> geographically? I guess
[17:17] <mercutio> wow
[17:17] <RandalSchwartz> New Orleans is American liverland
[17:17] <mercutio> this place is freezing
[17:17] * brycec is not a fan of Iowa, for the record.
[17:17] <RandalSchwartz> James T. Kirk is from Iowa.  He only *works* in space.
[17:17] <brycec> ^^ Iowa's only redeeming characteristic.
[17:17] <staticsafe> hah
[17:18] <brycec> They have a party or something every year for his bday too
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[17:18] <brycec> @google Iowa James T Kirk day
[17:18] <BryceBot> 533,000 total results returned for 'Iowa James T Kirk day', here's 3
[17:18] <BryceBot> James T. Kirk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_T._Kirk) James T. Kirk was born on March 22, 2233 in Riverside, Iowa. .... of divergence   between The Original Series and the film occurs on the day of Kirk's birth in 2233.
[17:18] <BryceBot> Future Birthplace of James T. Kirk, Riverside, Iowa - Roadside America (http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2081) James T. Kirk, captain of the starship Enterprise, will be born in Riverside on ... as   an Iowa reaper blade; the Trek Fest souvenir catalogue offers vials of Kirk Dirt, ....   without notice, so call ahead before driving 100 miles and ruining your day.
[17:18] <BryceBot> Riverside, Iowa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside,_Iowa) Riverside is a city in rural Washington County, Iowa, United States, along the   English ... Riverside proclaimed itself the future birthplace of Captain James T.   Kirk, ...
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[17:18] <brycec> close enough
[17:18] <brycec> "Trek Fest" I guess it's called
[17:19] <brycec> oh my, after 5 already, better get home...
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