aslr: dr_jkl : i do not, but good idea!
aslr: can you point me to an example of Amazon's one?  surprisingly, google images does not show any when I search "powered by ec2"
oh i may have found some...
hrmm anyone else having issues reaching their VPS at the minute?
LT: kvr08 NIC bounced a few times b/c of a stp bpdu guard (error in our fw leaked bpdu's)
but that was like an hour or more ago
would have been 2 hours ago, so that's probably it
any reason you use bpdu guard rather than bpdu filter on those ports?
LT: if there's a potential loop, i want the port to go down instead of melt the switch
just didn't think it was very likely for the server itself to be a loop...
hi, does arpnetworks have an option like softlayer's global ip?
"global ip"?
What's "global ip?"
a description, or a url with a description, would help me. :)
anycast
maybe he's talking about a CDN
i imagine
(a.k.a. their website is slow to load)
http://blog.softlayer.com/2012/global-ip-addresses-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work/
you could always use cloudflare for free :)
static routing
ok this global ip isn't as cool as i thought it was
mohaslan: Seeing as ARP Networks only has one datacenter, there's no point in "global ip" (a.k.a. Anycast)
(if that's what it is)
... https://www.cloudflare.com/overview
it's not anycast brycec
arp already do it
from their description
bottom plan is free - https://www.cloudflare.com/plans
you can move ip's between multiple vm's.
because each user has their own vlan
RandalSchwartz: nooooo
RandalSchwartz: don't tell people to use cloudflare, it slows down the internet
wat
the *whole* internet? :)
well sites that move
thats a broad statement
i'm like why's this site started slowing down
do a trace... cloudflare...
oh god damnit!  not again
i don't notice anything on cloudflare sites?
maybe you have a better cdn host for your area or something
yes I'm in Toronto
there better be good CDNs here
lol
heh
Yeah, NZ gets crap when it comes to CDN's
cachefly is good here
nz get's some cdn's.
but push cdn's are better than pull cdn's.
Then again, NZ gets crap compared to other parts of the world :p
in general
well NZ gets good speeds to san jose and los angeles normally at least
cloudflare has added a sydney node
i dunno if that'll help or make things worse
Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I don't think it's what mercutio was getting at either. Global IP is targeted at those that want to have an IP address and point it at any machine in any DC. And again, since ARP has just the one DC, it's not an issue mohaslan
sorry, I missed the part ;)
(And SoftLayer could have explained it much, much clearer IMHO)
brycec: they wanted to make it sound fancy
Yeah...
ENTERPRISE
my dsl ip is global :/
I am not looking for something across different datacenters, a simple solution in the datacenter is sufficient, you can say something more like elastic ip
i can login in different cities and it'll stay the sae
IP Failover?
VRRP?
mohaslan: elastic?
portable ip :/
mohaslan: When you become a customer, you get your own network (it's a VLAN @ the DC level) that has a /30 pointed at it. All your VM's live in that VLAN, and you can assign the IP to any VM you want.
anyway, i'm not sure how arp works exactly with multiple ip's.
mercutio: "Elastic IP" is an AWS term
brycec: aws?
awstats?
Amazon.com/aws
or aws.amazon.com
oh i don't like amazon
lol
so sorry if i don't know their buzzwords.
I was going to say - you kiwis are seeeeriously out of touch if you don't know about AWS
i had a friend with an instance
i kept telling him it was shit
and he should move off it
he kept saying how cheap it was
i'm like "it's not normal behaviour that when you do a batch job of mysql queries you can't run top because the load has skyrockted"
brycec: thanks. I got it now :)
so he gets a 3x as expensive plan or something
because apparently amazon severely throttle disk i/o on smaller plans
and it's "better"
heh, well you're not "supposed" to run MySQL in your instance. You're "supposed" to use an RDS (their hosted MySQL)
but it's expensive and it's still no better than a normal vps.
yeh
i think that's what he wnated to do "at some stage"
it was also laggy
and slow and blah
Also, Amazon does have some serious disk IO issues across all instances (they recently introduced some "guaranteed IOPS" plans though)
brycec: well this was acceptable for a $3/month plan or something
but it wasn't a $3/month plan
I tried using an instance as a VPS for awhile (you get the first year of a "micro" instance free), but that's not what it's designed for
i dunno why he's so keen on amazon
i checked out joyent the other day
AWS instances are meant to be ephemeral, provisioned on the fly and torn-down when done. They're not "long term servers"
^
they do linux but you can't get a console
and i'm like what?!
disk performance was real good
My EBS disks would frequently toast itself, and I'd have to reinstall :(
otherwise seemed average.
it's in oakland apparently
wherever that is :/
but ping is ok from here
mercutio: California, North of Los Angeles
ok
(Right next to San Francisco)
(but I don't know how much US geography you know... so I related it to ARP and LA)
heh
i know more than i used to
the other day i was wondering where that place that new fb dc was is
Well good for you
iowa.
but generally you hear about some places way more than others
Middle of the country, middle of nowhere too.
Quite true.
wlel i never hear about iowa
but i know where san jose and los angeles are
I suspect 1/3 of the US population doesn't really know where Iowa is.
heh
is it part of the bible belt?
(and of that 1/3, half are in Iowa already *rimshot*)
A bit west of it
by kansas?
Iowa is under "dwes" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_383FujfEbkY/S9VzXNnGRXI/AAAAAAAAAV4/WxT-jgyAlYw/s1600/usa_bible_belt.png
bah
by chicago
wow
i didn't realise the bible belt was so big
(and I was wrong, North, not West of the belt)
i was thinking east when you said west anyway i think
i dunno :/
(I visualize the belt as running North-South... I was wrong)
is flordia part of the bible belt?
mercutio: only a bit of it... By and large, no.
(That graphic is generous, I'd say)
ahh ok
Only the pan-handle of Florida would be considered bible-belt
i did google iowa
(or whatever the top piece of FL is called)
there were semi-naked runners for some university fundraiser or something
seemed small-townish :/
if that's like one of the news items
you're not wrong
Iowa is 95% farm-land, known for growing corn.
oh
wait is Iowa the American heartland?
geographically? I guess
wow
New Orleans is American liverland
this place is freezing
James T. Kirk is from Iowa.  He only *works* in space.
^^ Iowa's only redeeming characteristic.
hah
They have a party or something every year for his bday too
@google Iowa James T Kirk day
533,000 total results returned for 'Iowa James T Kirk day', here's 3
James T. Kirk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_T._Kirk) James T. Kirk was born on March 22, 2233 in Riverside, Iowa. .... of divergence   between The Original Series and the film occurs on the day of Kirk's birth in 2233.
Future Birthplace of James T. Kirk, Riverside, Iowa - Roadside America (http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2081) James T. Kirk, captain of the starship Enterprise, will be born in Riverside on ... as   an Iowa reaper blade; the Trek Fest souvenir catalogue offers vials of Kirk Dirt, ....   without notice, so call ahead before driving 100 miles and ruining your day.
Riverside, Iowa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside,_Iowa) Riverside is a city in rural Washington County, Iowa, United States, along the   English ... Riverside proclaimed itself the future birthplace of Captain James T.   Kirk, ...
close enough
"Trek Fest" I guess it's called
oh my, after 5 already, better get home...