#arpnetworks 2013-04-23,Tue

RandalSchwartz

a description, or a url with a description, would help me. :)

mercutio

anycast

RandalSchwartz

maybe he's talking about a CDN

mercutio

i imagine

brycec

(a.k.a. their website is slow to load)
http://blog.softlayer.com/2012/global-ip-addresses-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-work/

RandalSchwartz

you could always use cloudflare for free :)

[16:57]

mercutio

static routing
ok this global ip isn't as cool as i thought it was

[16:57]

brycec

mohaslan: Seeing as ARP Networks only has one datacenter, there's no point in "global ip" (a.k.a. Anycast)
(if that's what it is)

[16:57]

RandalSchwartz

... https://www.cloudflare.com/overview

mercutio

it's not anycast brycec
arp already do it
from their description

RandalSchwartz

bottom plan is free - https://www.cloudflare.com/plans

brycec

brycec stands corrected

mercutio

you can move ip's between multiple vm's.
because each user has their own vlan
RandalSchwartz: nooooo
RandalSchwartz: don't tell people to use cloudflare, it slows down the internet

staticsafe

wat

RandalSchwartz

the *whole* internet? :)

mercutio

well sites that move

staticsafe

thats a broad statement

mercutio

i'm like why's this site started slowing down
do a trace... cloudflare...
oh god damnit! not again

staticsafe

i don't notice anything on cloudflare sites?

mercutio

maybe you have a better cdn host for your area or something

staticsafe

yes I'm in Toronto
there better be good CDNs here

brycec

lol

mercutio

heh

brycec

Yeah, NZ gets crap when it comes to CDN's

mercutio

cachefly is good here
nz get's some cdn's.
but push cdn's are better than pull cdn's.

brycec

Then again, NZ gets crap compared to other parts of the world :p

mercutio

in general
well NZ gets good speeds to san jose and los angeles normally at least
cloudflare has added a sydney node
i dunno if that'll help or make things worse

brycec

Anyhow, back to the question at hand. I don't think it's what mercutio was getting at either. Global IP is targeted at those that want to have an IP address and point it at any machine in any DC. And again, since ARP has just the one DC, it's not an issue mohaslan

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mohaslan

sorry, I missed the part ;)

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brycec

(And SoftLayer could have explained it much, much clearer IMHO)

mercutio

brycec: they wanted to make it sound fancy

brycec

Yeah...

staticsafe

ENTERPRISE

mercutio

my dsl ip is global :/

mohaslan

I am not looking for something across different datacenters, a simple solution in the datacenter is sufficient, you can say something more like elastic ip

mercutio

i can login in different cities and it'll stay the sae

staticsafe

IP Failover?
VRRP?

mercutio

mohaslan: elastic?
portable ip :/

brycec

mohaslan: When you become a customer, you get your own network (it's a VLAN @ the DC level) that has a /30 pointed at it. All your VM's live in that VLAN, and you can assign the IP to any VM you want.

[17:04]

mercutio

anyway, i'm not sure how arp works exactly with multiple ip's.

[17:04]

brycec

mercutio: "Elastic IP" is an AWS term

[17:04]

mercutio

brycec: aws?
awstats?

brycec

Amazon.com/aws
or aws.amazon.com

mercutio

oh i don't like amazon

brycec

lol

mercutio

so sorry if i don't know their buzzwords.

brycec

I was going to say - you kiwis are seeeeriously out of touch if you don't know about AWS

mercutio

i had a friend with an instance
i kept telling him it was shit
and he should move off it
he kept saying how cheap it was

brycec

brycec waits for the punchline

mercutio

i'm like "it's not normal behaviour that when you do a batch job of mysql queries you can't run top because the load has skyrockted"

mohaslan

brycec: thanks. I got it now :)

mercutio

so he gets a 3x as expensive plan or something
because apparently amazon severely throttle disk i/o on smaller plans
and it's "better"

brycec

heh, well you're not "supposed" to run MySQL in your instance. You're "supposed" to use an RDS (their hosted MySQL)

mercutio

but it's expensive and it's still no better than a normal vps.
yeh
i think that's what he wnated to do "at some stage"
it was also laggy
and slow and blah

brycec

Also, Amazon does have some serious disk IO issues across all instances (they recently introduced some "guaranteed IOPS" plans though)

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mercutio

brycec: well this was acceptable for a $3/month plan or something
but it wasn't a $3/month plan

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brycec

I tried using an instance as a VPS for awhile (you get the first year of a "micro" instance free), but that's not what it's designed for

[17:08]

mercutio

i dunno why he's so keen on amazon
i checked out joyent the other day

[17:08]

brycec

AWS instances are meant to be ephemeral, provisioned on the fly and torn-down when done. They're not "long term servers"

[17:08]

staticsafe

mercutio

they do linux but you can't get a console
and i'm like what?!
disk performance was real good

brycec

My EBS disks would frequently toast itself, and I'd have to reinstall :(

mercutio

otherwise seemed average.
it's in oakland apparently
wherever that is :/
but ping is ok from here

brycec

mercutio: California, North of Los Angeles

mercutio

[17:10]

brycec

(Right next to San Francisco)
(but I don't know how much US geography you know... so I related it to ARP and LA)

[17:10]

mercutio

heh
i know more than i used to
the other day i was wondering where that place that new fb dc was is

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brycec

Well good for you

mercutio

iowa.
but generally you hear about some places way more than others

brycec

Middle of the country, middle of nowhere too.
Quite true.

mercutio

wlel i never hear about iowa
but i know where san jose and los angeles are

brycec

I suspect 1/3 of the US population doesn't really know where Iowa is.

mercutio

heh
is it part of the bible belt?

brycec

(and of that 1/3, half are in Iowa already *rimshot*)
A bit west of it

[17:12]

mercutio

by kansas?

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brycec

Iowa is under "dwes" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_383FujfEbkY/S9VzXNnGRXI/AAAAAAAAAV4/WxT-jgyAlYw/s1600/usa_bible_belt.png

mercutio

bah
by chicago
wow
i didn't realise the bible belt was so big

brycec

(and I was wrong, North, not West of the belt)

mercutio

i was thinking east when you said west anyway i think
i dunno :/

brycec

(I visualize the belt as running North-South... I was wrong)

mercutio

is flordia part of the bible belt?

brycec

mercutio: only a bit of it... By and large, no.
(That graphic is generous, I'd say)

mercutio

ahh ok

brycec

Only the pan-handle of Florida would be considered bible-belt

mercutio

i did google iowa

brycec

(or whatever the top piece of FL is called)

mercutio

there were semi-naked runners for some university fundraiser or something
seemed small-townish :/
if that's like one of the news items

brycec

you're not wrong
Iowa is 95% farm-land, known for growing corn.

mercutio

staticsafe

wait is Iowa the American heartland?

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brycec

geographically? I guess

[17:16]

mercutio

wow

RandalSchwartz

New Orleans is American liverland

mercutio

this place is freezing

brycec

brycec is not a fan of Iowa, for the record.

RandalSchwartz

James T. Kirk is from Iowa. He only *works* in space.

brycec

^^ Iowa's only redeeming characteristic.

staticsafe

hah

brycec

They have a party or something every year for his bday too

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brycec

@google Iowa James T Kirk day

BryceBot

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brycec

close enough
"Trek Fest" I guess it's called
oh my, after 5 already, better get home...