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Well I'll bbl.
Maybe it'll have fixed itself by then. nesta: mtr is in OpenBSD ports toddf: mtr is in ports GluffiS: my openbsd works fine :D
should upgrade :D staticsafe: also apparently there is a fiber cut in the SF Bay area -: mikeputnam plugs arp on http://milwaukeemakerspace.org/ mikeputnam: CaZe: # pkg_add mtr CaZe: Well maybe when I upgrade the snapshot.
I think my VM crashed.
I can ping it, but I see nothing on serial. toddf: caze: did you configure serial output? CaZe: Yes.
Heh. toddf: control-ecl0 will send a reset incase you had ddb.console enabled CaZe: I saw a prompt on VNC.
I typed in my login, but the password prompt doesn't come up. staticsafe: CaZe: where are you seeing packet loss from? (Location) CaZe: Boston
The packet loss actually just went away.
Weird, my machine's still responding to pings, but I can't get it to respond on serial or VNC.
I guess I'll just try a hard reboot.
Well, I still have 2% packet loss. GluffiS: boston links migt be full due to yesterdays bombing ***: CaZe` has joined #arpnetworks
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CaZe` is now known as CaZe CaZe: Well I think it's fixed.
I wonder if the packet loss I was experiencing was OpenBSD slowly dying.
Though it had gotten a lot better right before I rebooted it.
Down to 0% now, though there were a few pings in the 1000ms range. mercutio: maybe it was related to that cable cut thing CaZe: Maybe, how long ago was that? mercutio: no idea
hmm looks like 4 hours ago ***: nesta has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) toddf: caze: I've misdiagnosed my vps having issues vs he.net having issues getting me to my vps ***: nesta has joined #arpnetworks
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nesta has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: weird my vm is going slow
it never goes slow
oh
it's just mirrors.arpnetworks.com
ipv4 doesn't seem to respond to ping ipv6 does staticsafe: :o mercutio: well by being slow
i meant pkg_add was taking forever
can other people get to mirrors.arpnetworks.com on ipv4? RandalSchwartz: I see it on v4 mercutio: ok
why can't i
208.79.88.133...
do you get that ip? RandalSchwartz: yes mercutio: # telnet mirrors.arpnetworks.com 80
Trying 208.79.88.133...
and you can connect on port 80? RandalSchwartz: my browser works, if that's what you mean mercutio: # telnet -6 mirrors.arpnetworks.com 80
Trying 2607:f2f8:0:101::2...
Connected to mirrors.arpnetworks.com.
from arp i meant
oh RandalSchwartz: oh, I'm doing it from outside mercutio: i can trace to mirrors.arpnetworks.com from home staticsafe: mercutio: yep can't reach v4 from my arp node mercutio: i wonder what changed
up_the_irons: are you around?
i wonder if there's a way to make pkg_add use ipv6
i think it's timing out after forever
and falling back, but the ipv4 isn't doign connection resfused or anything to it move on quickly ***: pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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pjs_ is now known as pjs up_the_irons: all: there was a fiber cut between LAX and SJC earlier, causing some Any2 peers to bounce
"UPDATE: Field technicians have confirmed that the cable was cut in the existing slack coil in the manhole. Field Operations are prepping the cables at this time while awaiting the arrival of the splice crews."
holy crap:
"UPDATE: The fiber cut was located in San Jose, CA and the technicians have completed prepping the fibers. The two splice crews are onsite at this time and have begun splicing the first fibers. The Transport NOC
+is monitoring alarms as systems should begin to clear. Field Services reports it was a full cut of a 132 count cable. They estimate 2 - 2.5 hours to complete all splicing and for all services to restore."
132 fibers! milki: fun RandalSchwartz: not as much fiber as SUPER colon blow up_the_irons: this now appears fixed though:
"UPDATE: Our Transport provider has completed splicing and we have verified services are back up. Outage is now complete this will conclude our updates for this issue." mercutio: seperate paths are good
up_the_irons: can you look into why mirrors.arpnetworks.com is down on ipv4 from arp vm's?
but up from internet at large, and up on ipv6 ***: mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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[Derek] has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: mercutio: strange, i can hit it find from our VMs mercutio: well it didn't work me and static
at a minimum
with ipv4
it doesn't make it past gateway RandalSchwartz: still not working? staticsafe: dies at - 208.79.93.113 mercutio: RandalSchwartz: did you try it from inside?
static: is that your gateway? RandalSchwartz: actually - not for me inside either mercutio: ie is your vps ip one higher than that RandalSchwartz: v6 no problem
v4 hurting staticsafe: mercutio: yep its my gateway RandalSchwartz: mtr shows it not making it off the first hop mercutio: RandalSchwartz: yeh same as us RandalSchwartz: I wonder how many other servers I can't talk to ***: Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks
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dunno why user/system time showing as 0
but over 3 hours to run pkg_add -uvr ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer up_the_irons: (yet i will probably not announce all our prefixes over it until further testing) ***: medum has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 257 seconds) staticsafe: o/ -: mikeputnam wets himself @ 17:55 < RandalSchwartz> not as much fiber as SUPER colon blo mikeputnam: that was SNL wasn't it? RandalSchwartz: yes ***: tabthorpe has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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medum has joined #arpnetworks jbergstroem: this is the 5th time pingdom is reporting my site as down while its not....
who's watching the watcher over there
are there any known peering/network issues going on? ***: tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: there was, and maybe is jbergstroem: ssh: connect to host github.com port 22: Connection timed out
well, to most places I try to talk to.
http://hastebin.com/weherequnu.bash ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer mercutio: oh that's nice, tinet route from los angeles to san jose to connect to ntt ***: brycec has joined #arpnetworks jbergstroem: mercutio: you also experience connectivity issues? mercutio: not until changed route
to go over ntt
took it back out
it was giving packet loss from tinet onwards
/and/ tinet was sending lax sj, sj, lax
connecting to ntt in sj
steadfast seems ok but i can't download my test file for some reason jbergstroem: Perhaps a stupid question, but how do i re-route outbound from my arpnetworks? I thought what was out of scope mercutio: outbound from my isp jbergstroem: I can't do shit from my host
ah mercutio: and short answer is you can't jbergstroem: thought what -> thought that. mercutio: haven't found outbound routes going over ntt yet
looks like no outbound routes over ntt yet
so yeah it's only partially up and only some subnets
which is probably a good thing if giving issues
that tinet issue maybe tinet issue though :/
hey i am having connectivity issues
i think reverse path fiterling or the like
icmp works :/
well stateful crap
up_the_irons: yuo around?
hopefully he knows about it
yeah it can't see return traffic ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) brycec: lol even traffic to www.ntt.com routes over HE
silly up_the_irons mercutio: all outbound is not going over ntt
it's not completely silly
it's a complex issue to have it going over both outbounds atm
so i understand him doing incoming first brycec: mercutio: I figured it would be logical for traffic to NTT to go over NTT
(v4 or v6) mercutio: brycec: his primary router can only take 100k routes
his ntt connection is on secondary router brycec: ah mercutio: all the vm connectinos are terminating on the primary router
he currently has 96k routes
even all the close ntt routes is likely to be bigger than 4k
so what i imagine is likely is that further down the line he'll start shifting people to the new router
that can take full bgp table
and start shifting the upstreams over to that
but in the interim he's trying out the ntt with incoming
where it doesn't need to store huge route list brycec: ah
gotcha mercutio: in the interim ntt giving isuses staticsafe: mercutio: are you bored or what? mercutio: static: must be :)
it's lunchtime, it's wet, it's hot
and i can't even decide what order to eat my lunch in jbergstroem: since this issue is actually making large parts of my srevices to not work; should I escalate it somehow? I created a support ticket an hour ago
i kind of assume it's known at this point staticsafe: :o mercutio: heh
well up_the_irons hasn't been talking in channel
he may be busy
he may be busy doing related things or unrelated things jbergstroem: but surely things like these must have monitoring abnormalities? mercutio: depends
icmp works
but tcp connections don't staticsafe: jbergstroem: you sure its not your ISP? RandalSchwartz: big problem I think is the upstream
althought it's just weird mercutio: jbergstroem: your trace shows ntt in the path right? jbergstroem: staticsafe: tried from multiple locations, and more importantly - nothing going out from the host is working staticsafe: ouch mercutio: nothing?
can you get to http://lwn.net on the host? jbergstroem: mercutio: icmp is fine. curl google.com times out, just as ssh mercutio: oh i see curl google doesn't work for me either staticsafe: hrm what kvr are you guys on? mercutio: kvr15
i think RandalSchwartz: I'm on 05 jbergstroem: 04 staticsafe: im not seeing any issues on mine mercutio: what is your ip? RandalSchwartz: I can traceroute google mercutio: er /24 is good enough staticsafe: ferrovax.asininetech.com RandalSchwartz: red.stonehenge.com jbergstroem: 174.136.101.154 mercutio: you're not being advertised static
208.79.88.0/21 isn't being advetised staticsafe: oh ***: mikeputnam has joined #arpnetworks staticsafe: derp now i understand mercutio: 174.136.96.0/20 is
which is what i'm on, and jberg is on staticsafe: how are you checking this?
route-server? mercutio: global bgp route table RandalSchwartz: Uh - red.stonehenge.com is reachable from the real world
or I wouldn't be talking to you mercutio: randal: it's only some routes down
the paths that come into ntt RandalSchwartz: oh mercutio: if you can't get to your vm and traceroute shows ntt you'll be screwed
but same applies for other hosts
and it's hard to see reverse path
like how do you get google to run a traceroute staticsafe: i was about to try from my .au vps, but then I realized its Vocus for intl transit CaZe: My traceroute to my VPS shows ntt :D jbergstroem: so, 1h 30m in; how do we call on the gods? CaZe: Though leaving my VPS takes mzima. mercutio: caze can you ssh to your vps?
static: vocus had issues last night
it was routing via hong kong
return path via he.net
they're usually on any2ix direct CaZe: Yes, I'm on it now. mercutio: this was before i read about the fibre cuts
which is prob related to why it was scrwed
caze: oh intersting jbergstroem: url to fibre cuts? mercutio: can you reach other ports?
jber: it was in my email staticsafe: jbergstroem: fibre cuts have been repaired mercutio: umm jbergstroem: yeah, just never read about it mercutio: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/capitola/ci_23040335/at-t-customers-cut-off-by-outage CaZe: ports? This is over IPV4, btw. mercutio: take that for example
it was in san jose jbergstroem: thanks mercutio: oh it was talked about in this channel too
someone said 132 fibres were lost
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.isotf.outages/5634
that's the mailing list i saw it on btw staticsafe: yea same
it was on NANOG too RandalSchwartz: that's a *lot* of fiber
... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ms6e_saturday-night-live-colon-blow_fun mercutio: static: otuages goes to my main mail box, nanog a seperate one
so yeah didn't see it on nanog
nanog has toom uch mail sometimes :/ staticsafe: mercutio: im on too many mailing lists - http://okazaki.tomoyo.ca/AIi.png jbergstroem: somewhere along the road too many ml's somehow turns into a chase for that 0 unread for me :( mercutio: nanog has lots of crap
like that stuff about google tld or something staticsafe: heh yea
did you see the drama on AUSNOG? mercutio: that's way more than me
you use gentoo-users, ubuntu-users, freebsd-users
what's the point of those/ :)
i'm not on ausnog jbergstroem: linux-kernel orly? :) mercutio: what happened?
i'm on linux-kerenel too staticsafe: ubuntu-users is for entertainment, gentoo-users because i use gentoo, freebsd-users same thing mercutio: only so i can scan for things if i have weird problem or something staticsafe: jbergstroem: its marked read by the filter
i keep it in case i have to look up something mercutio: static: just like me :) jbergstroem: the only lists i try to stay on par with nowadays is llvm{dev,-commits} and cfe-{dev,commits}
s/is/are mercutio: so looking at ausnog pipenetworks had big outage staticsafe: gentoo-users gets fun every time udev and systemd gets brought up
:P
fedora-users was terrible when the last new release with the new installer came out jbergstroem: staticsafe: USE=mdev emerge busybox :) staticsafe: *shrug* im not opposed to udev yet RandalSchwartz: I got introduced by $client to Monit the other day
as an alternative to nagios and/or zabbix and/or upstart jbergstroem: staticsafe: guess it depends on use case. just saying that it's hard to motivate for headless stuff. staticsafe: yea good point
my only gentoo install is my desktop -: RandalSchwartz doesn't run *anything* linux jbergstroem: once you've gotten used to portage, you get a bit picky in what you expect from a package manager. at least one of my reaons for using it [gentoo] for so long. staticsafe: I've been fanboying over FreeBSD lately
jbergstroem: indeed
portage is <3 RandalSchwartz: yeah - longtime user of fbsd jbergstroem: so. we just passed 2 hours. any suggestions on how to escalate? RandalSchwartz: pretty sure up_the_irons is doing whatever he can
escalation would be finding a way to get ec2 to host your site for a while, or something jbergstroem: well dns TTL gives me an hour or two more to play with
i guess i'd just like to be sure that people know there's a problem staticsafe: long DNS TTLs-- jbergstroem: staticsafe: i don't optimise for exeptions. first time since i've moved to arp i've had any kind of issues
exceptions, sorry staticsafe: jbergstroem: could be worse, 24hr TTL :P jbergstroem: i guess :) staticsafe: after my exams are done I'm going to play with DNSSEC ***: lazard has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: I need more time to play with Dart
my clients both need it... but I haven't had enough time mercutio: did up_the_irons make an appearance yet? RandalSchwartz: mercutio earlier yes mercutio: well still can't reach google etc RandalSchwartz: yeah. like nothing can be done here
push button. light doesn't light up. sad. mercutio: you need to push it harder? RandalSchwartz: sometimes, the internet breaks :) jbergstroem: mercutio: we're test subjects :) [11:31am] :@up_the_irons: (yet i will probably not announce all our prefixes over it until further testing) CaZe: mercutio: You can't reach google from your VPS? mercutio: CaZe: yeh
<root@arp:~>
zsh 3008 # curl -v http://www.google.com/
* About to connect() to www.google.com port 80 (#0)
* Trying 74.125.224.209...
* Connection timed out
* Trying 74.125.224.212...
* Connection timed out
* Trying 74.125.224.211... CaZe: --- 74.125.224.209 ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.687/0.801/1.012/0.093 ms mercutio: ping works
try curl CaZe: lynx works for me. jbergstroem: it seems that i actually can curl google now CaZe: Don't have curl. jbergstroem: through ntt, it seems mercutio: * Timeout
* Trying 74.125.224.210...
* Timeout
* Trying 2001:4860:4007:801::1013...
* connected
* Connected to www.google.com (2001:4860:4007:801::1013) port 80 (#0)
yousure
my curl fell back on ipv6 jbergstroem: yeah, i'm sure
im bouncing all over the place though
hong kong, japan
sg.bb?
singapore mnathani: ping google.com
PING google.com (114.120.192.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 114.120.192.59: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=278 ms jbergstroem: icmp is working mnathani: hk > jp > sg
less than optimal routing for sure
Arpnetworks DNS is resolving google to : 114.120.192.35 currently
try google public dns for better results CaZe: 0.841ms for 74.125.224.209 jbergstroem: couldn't reach googles public dns:es for a good while mnathani: NTT transit related? mercutio: mnathani: most likely
i raelly wondre if up_the_irons doesn't know
does anyone have his cellphone number and can sms him? jbergstroem: 3 hours soon mercutio: cos the simple solutoin would be to stop advertising to ntt
temp jbergstroem: mercutio: would seem starnge since he said he enabled ntt on irc. wouldn't you monitor such a change? mercutio: jberg: maybe he went back to dc? ***: thestereobus has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: i dunno RandalSchwartz: I can't imagine he is in a state of both "not knowing this is happening" and "can do something about this" mercutio: you'd think so yes jbergstroem but i'm just looking at what the situation is RandalSchwartz: either, sure. but not both.
he's pretty good about monitoring thestereobus: hi folks - anyone else having issues with outgoing connections on port 25? RandalSchwartz: thestereobus - yes, some general network issues jbergstroem: thestereobus: most stuff will be problematic if you're in 174.136.96.0/20 thestereobus: okay, thanks
yup I am mercutio: hey
it's working for me now
well to google jbergstroem: yeah, same here. but not most other things mercutio: oh right jbergstroem: been like that for the past hour mercutio: still broken to steadfast mnathani: a looking glass on ARP networks would be nice right about now mercutio: mnathani: it wouldn't actually help at all
but i have bgp to arp
and could setup lg mnathani: do you see ntt as preferred for any destinations? mercutio: his is getting weirder, my other ip works
mnathani: nope
ntt is in the path for only one subnet
it's all incoming
i misplaced their as but i checked before
flags destination gateway lpref med aspath origin
*> 103.14.194.0/24 174.136.111.233 100 0 25795 25795 25795 25795 9304 55821 9299 2914 2516 9658 58677 i
that's the only route with ntt in path
and that's not direct connect to ntt even mnathani: Destination: 206.162.240.0/20 >> 4436 25973 25795 I
from: http://www.us.ntt.net/support/looking-glass/ mercutio: 4436 is intermediate mnathani: mercutio: you have your own AS ? mercutio: that's via mzima/nlayer?
mnathani: yeh, why's that? jbergstroem: so, since we passed 3 hours - is it possible to somehow get reach of him and at least verify that he/someone is working on it? mnathani: have you emailed support@ jbergstroem: 2h 30min ago mnathani: he probably has access to that on a smartphone or pc of some kind mercutio: i was hoping someone had his cell number up_the_irons: so there's trouble with that announcement? i'll investigate jbergstroem: wb :) mercutio: up_the_irons: icmp works, acts like stateful filtering
with only seeing one side up_the_irons: quick fix: I stopped the announcement of 174.136.96.0/20 mercutio: up_the_irons: cool
yeah working now Lucifer7: my dead connections just came back up jbergstroem: confirmed. mercutio: up_the_irons: with debugging, arp couldn't see return traffic from steadfast, even when arp created connection.. up_the_irons: i think the issue is: while I redistributed connected routes into bgp so the new router sees all the customer vlan's, the routes learned via customer bgp sessions are not seen mercutio: where steadfast was routing back via ntt
hmm
how come ping worked then? up_the_irons: mercutio: yeah, that makes sense
mercutio: no idea, that's weird, ping shouldn't have worked mercutio: that's what made me thing stateful issue
think mnathani: dig @208.79.88.7 google.com is returning some strange addresses in 114.120.192.0/24 mercutio: singapore
mnath
that's prob cos google detected an issue
like some of fancy thing
it'll prob fix itself after some time jbergstroem: yeah, that happened ~2h in
does anyone know what mobo the dedicated servers are running on? guessing its one of these? http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/xeon_3400.cfm?pg=MOBO up_the_irons: jbergstroem: X9SCD-F jbergstroem: up_the_irons: thanks.
up_the_irons: you mention 2 nics on your website (and up to 4 ddrives), but it only seems to be 1 dedicated and 2x6G SATA's. Do you add extra nics/controller cards? up_the_irons: jbergstroem: i have another MB for >2 drives, but it is functionaly identical to the X9SCD-F
in fact, it is the X9SCL-F
mercutio: can u check your routing now? i believe i have fixed the customer route propagation within my ibgp. i am announcing the /20 to NTT again mercutio: ok
still fucked
take out the /20 again? jbergstroem: (fucked here too) up_the_irons: hmm.. wth CaZe: What's the affected network? mercutio: 174.136.96.0/20
a /20 is 16 wide up_the_irons: removed announcement mercutio: so 96 to 115
err
i can't do maths :/
96 to 111 i think CaZe: I'm in there, and I don't have any problems.
I just do IRC and my house, though.
My connection to my house has been a lot more stable than it was this afternoon. ***: mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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