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| jbergstroem | ouf, heavy day for linode users/admins.. i hope they're not one of those "don't delete, rather hide from user" kind of developers since I had an account 8mo ago.. | [14:30] |
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| doomviking | up_the_irons: I despise that venue | [14:58] |
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| phlux | not a fan of linode's practices | [15:17] |
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| up_the_irons | doomviking: i know, never been there, but still have not had a good feeling about it.
jbergstroem: what happened to linode? up_the_irons googles dang, linode pricing is finally competitive | [16:14] |
| mike-burns | A quick Web search implies that it's non-trivial to run FreeBSD on Linode. | [16:19] |
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| phlux | wow
some guy in the linode channel on oftc was apparently reading off credit card numbers a staff member confirmed they were correct. that's bad. | [16:26] |
| up_the_irons | oh fuck
mike-burns: yeah but for the linux users, their pricing is now lower than our own | [16:29] |
| mercutio | heh i like how up_the_irons looks up the linode issue, and finds good pricing | [16:30] |
| phlux | lol | [16:30] |
| mercutio | nad is like is that what the issue is? :) | [16:30] |
| staticsafe | *sigh* | [16:30] |
| mercutio | i'm not a fan of linode
i tried googling it too i didn't find much | [16:30] |
| phlux | phlux waves at mercutio | [16:30] |
| staticsafe | im dding an image of one of my linodes atm from Finnix | [16:30] |
| phlux | I'm glad I ditched Linode months ago | [16:31] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah well i just looked at their blog and noticed that being the recent post. didn't know about the CC numbers ;)
phlux: what didn't you like about them? | [16:31] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: yeh, that's like looking at mcdonalds web site to see complaints about food qualit
+y | [16:31] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [16:32] |
| mercutio | linode network sucks aynway
except for dallas | [16:32] |
| phlux | up_the_irons: I really always hated their support times and support quality. When I had a real issue, it was always assumed that it was just my problem, and that I must've done something to create the issue. | [16:32] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: even their new network? looked pretty "expensive" to me ;) | [16:32] |
| mercutio | and last i knew their disk performance sucks | [16:33] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: ah ok | [16:33] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: that's routers, not upstreams. | [16:33] |
| phlux | up_the_irons: Now, I also hate the fact that they're complete noobs when it comes to security. | [16:33] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: gotcha | [16:33] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: i'm sure you understand how upstream is more important than router choice normally | [16:33] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: lol | [16:33] |
| mercutio | other than the bridging mess issue that lots of larger vps providers hit | [16:33] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: i suppose i just assumed they bought some good upstreams along with their new gear ;) | [16:33] |
| mercutio | but expensive routers isn't really the best fix. | [16:33] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: they very well could. | [16:34] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: bridging mess? u mean like tons of ARP's on the line? | [16:34] |
| mercutio | they're definitely big enough to buy from upstreams in multiple locations and have their own shared network
up_the_irons: like 500+ hosts in one bridging domain | [16:34] |
| up_the_irons | yeah
mercutio: ah ok, yeah | [16:34] |
| mercutio | although i think it's more often 2000+
it's like we need more ip's, get more ip's, we need people to be able to get extra ip's, so we can't have seperate domains | [16:35] |
| phlux | http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/linode-resets-passwords-after-discovering-customer-hacking-attempt
"attempt" heh | [16:36] |
| mercutio | i see what you mean about linode pricing looking attractive though | [16:36] |
| phlux | i guess we should rename that to "success" now
mercutio: yeah, but tortoiselabs's prices are even better tbh | [16:37] |
| up_the_irons | i've thought about up'ing the 768MB RAM plan to 1024MB RAM. nice even number.. 1G for $20. trouble is I don't have the hardware. | [16:37] |
| phlux | but i use arp because of the quality of the vps | [16:37] |
| up_the_irons | i could do it for new accounts, but not older ones | [16:37] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: i'd be more keen for more cpu cores tbh | [16:37] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: roger | [16:38] |
| mercutio | it doesn't need to be 8 cpu cores on $20 plan | [16:38] |
| staticsafe | ARP is great, just HE needs to stop randomly dying Q_Q | [16:38] |
| mercutio | but more than 1 would be nice | [16:38] |
| phlux | ARP has been my most stable and quick VPS | [16:39] |
| mercutio | i've had constant pcaket loss to arp for a while now :( | [16:39] |
| phlux | That's why I don't mind paying what I pay | [16:39] |
| mercutio | i'm hoping this new router thing comes in
with ntt and that that fixes the issue | [16:39] |
| staticsafe | NTT is a v4 and v6 session? | [16:39] |
| mercutio | err by consant, i mean nightly rather than 24/7
static: yeh | [16:39] |
| staticsafe | well that gives us some variety | [16:39] |
| up_the_irons | yeah we'll have native v6 with NTT too, so finally another upstream for v6 | [16:39] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: can mzima not do ipv6? | [16:40] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: i've asked them before and they never get back to me
so i wrote it off cuz i know NTT will be better anyway | [16:40] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: heh maybe you need to cron it | [16:40] |
| up_the_irons | haha | [16:40] |
| mercutio | send an email everyone month asking for an update as to their ipv6 readyness
seer every month | [16:40] |
| staticsafe | :) | [16:41] |
| mercutio | i cant' type
so much for mechanical keyboard fixing my typing i imagine when new router comes in some routes will be a bit better too from having full bgp | [16:41] |
| staticsafe | i just relinked all my leaf servers to my ARP vps :) | [16:42] |
| mercutio | leaf servers? | [16:42] |
| staticsafe | IRC network | [16:42] |
| mercutio | ahh
what irc network is that why do i always forget who people are | [16:43] |
| staticsafe | irc.entropynet.net | [16:43] |
| mercutio | oh i'm connected to that | [16:44] |
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| jbergstroem | up_the_irons: a lot of opinions, but this is essentially what stirred it up: http://turtle.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/linode/linode-abridged.txt
and hacker news obviously goes wild on hearsay's. in a sense doesn't matter until confirmed, but a lot of their customers probably has a religious relationship with hn | [17:04] |
| staticsafe | Linode staffer - FWIW, last four are stored separately from full card numbers to be used for display in places in the manager. Also, additional blog post is forthcoming asap | [17:07] |
| up_the_irons | jbergstroem: wow | [17:07] |
| jbergstroem | staticsafe: keep up the good work | [17:08] |
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| up_the_irons | glad i never stored a credit card number on the server | [17:22] |
| mercutio | i'd be more concerned with data integriy | [17:22] |
| up_the_irons | i c | [17:22] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: how do you process CC numbers? | [17:24] |
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| up_the_irons | staticsafe: gpg encrypted version is stored on the server and the private key is offline | [17:32] |
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| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz waves at the channel | [19:05] |
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| RandalSchwartz | hey | [19:07] |
| mnathani | How are things with Perl and Git? | [19:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | my next big undertaking is upgrading perl 5.8 to 5.14 on my server
I'm hoping it will be without a hitch and then freebsd 8.3 to 9.1 after that can we pick ISOs from a menu now? I forget. | [19:08] |
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| mnathani | I know up_the_irons was working on some automated way us end users can change the ISOs
dont think it is live as yet | [19:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | Hmm. not seeing it yet in the UI | [19:10] |
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| mercutio | telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl | [22:33] |
| mnathani | Starwars ... nice
I am liking the asci art | [22:35] |
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