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mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) jbergstroem: ouf, heavy day for linode users/admins.. i hope they're not one of those "don't delete, rather hide from user" kind of developers since I had an account 8mo ago.. doomviking: up_the_irons: I despise that venue ***: up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) up_the_irons: doomviking: i know, never been there, but still have not had a good feeling about it.
jbergstroem: what happened to linode? -: up_the_irons googles up_the_irons: dang, linode pricing is finally competitive mike-burns: A quick Web search implies that it's non-trivial to run FreeBSD on Linode. ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer phlux: wow
some guy in the linode channel on oftc was apparently reading off credit card numbers
a staff member confirmed they were correct.
that's bad. up_the_irons: oh fuck
mike-burns: yeah but for the linux users, their pricing is now lower than our own mercutio: heh i like how up_the_irons looks up the linode issue, and finds good pricing phlux: lol mercutio: nad is like is that what the issue is? :) staticsafe: *sigh* mercutio: i'm not a fan of linode
i tried googling it too i didn't find much -: phlux waves at mercutio staticsafe: im dding an image of one of my linodes atm from Finnix phlux: I'm glad I ditched Linode months ago up_the_irons: mercutio: yeah well i just looked at their blog and noticed that being the recent post. didn't know about the CC numbers ;)
phlux: what didn't you like about them? mercutio: up_the_irons: yeh, that's like looking at mcdonalds web site to see complaints about food qualit
+y up_the_irons: LOL mercutio: linode network sucks aynway
except for dallas phlux: up_the_irons: I really always hated their support times and support quality. When I had a real issue, it was always assumed that it was just my problem, and that I must've done something to create the issue. up_the_irons: mercutio: even their new network? looked pretty "expensive" to me ;) mercutio: and last i knew their disk performance sucks up_the_irons: phlux: ah ok mercutio: up_the_irons: that's routers, not upstreams. phlux: up_the_irons: Now, I also hate the fact that they're complete noobs when it comes to security. up_the_irons: mercutio: gotcha mercutio: up_the_irons: i'm sure you understand how upstream is more important than router choice normally up_the_irons: phlux: lol mercutio: other than the bridging mess issue that lots of larger vps providers hit up_the_irons: mercutio: i suppose i just assumed they bought some good upstreams along with their new gear ;) mercutio: but expensive routers isn't really the best fix. ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: up_the_irons: they very well could. up_the_irons: mercutio: bridging mess? u mean like tons of ARP's on the line? mercutio: they're definitely big enough to buy from upstreams in multiple locations and have their own shared network
up_the_irons: like 500+ hosts in one bridging domain up_the_irons: yeah
mercutio: ah ok, yeah mercutio: although i think it's more often 2000+
it's like we need more ip's, get more ip's, we need people to be able to get extra ip's, so we can't have seperate domains phlux: http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/linode-resets-passwords-after-discovering-customer-hacking-attempt
"attempt" heh mercutio: i see what you mean about linode pricing looking attractive though phlux: i guess we should rename that to "success" now
mercutio: yeah, but tortoiselabs's prices are even better tbh up_the_irons: i've thought about up'ing the 768MB RAM plan to 1024MB RAM. nice even number.. 1G for $20. trouble is I don't have the hardware. phlux: but i use arp because of the quality of the vps up_the_irons: i could do it for new accounts, but not older ones mercutio: up_the_irons: i'd be more keen for more cpu cores tbh up_the_irons: mercutio: roger mercutio: it doesn't need to be 8 cpu cores on $20 plan staticsafe: ARP is great, just HE needs to stop randomly dying Q_Q mercutio: but more than 1 would be nice phlux: ARP has been my most stable and quick VPS mercutio: i've had constant pcaket loss to arp for a while now :( phlux: That's why I don't mind paying what I pay mercutio: i'm hoping this new router thing comes in
with ntt
and that that fixes the issue staticsafe: NTT is a v4 and v6 session? mercutio: err by consant, i mean nightly rather than 24/7
static: yeh staticsafe: well that gives us some variety up_the_irons: yeah we'll have native v6 with NTT too, so finally another upstream for v6 mercutio: up_the_irons: can mzima not do ipv6? up_the_irons: mercutio: i've asked them before and they never get back to me
so i wrote it off cuz i know NTT will be better anyway mercutio: up_the_irons: heh maybe you need to cron it up_the_irons: haha mercutio: send an email everyone month asking for an update as to their ipv6 readyness
seer every month staticsafe: :) mercutio: i cant' type
so much for mechanical keyboard fixing my typing
i imagine when new router comes in some routes will be a bit better too from having full bgp staticsafe: i just relinked all my leaf servers to my ARP vps :) mercutio: leaf servers? staticsafe: IRC network mercutio: ahh
what irc network is that
why do i always forget who people are staticsafe: irc.entropynet.net mercutio: oh i'm connected to that jbergstroem: up_the_irons: a lot of opinions, but this is essentially what stirred it up: http://turtle.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/linode/linode-abridged.txt
and hacker news obviously goes wild on hearsay's. in a sense doesn't matter until confirmed, but a lot of their customers probably has a religious relationship with hn staticsafe: Linode staffer - FWIW, last four are stored separately from full card numbers to be used for display in places in the manager. Also, additional blog post is forthcoming asap up_the_irons: jbergstroem: wow jbergstroem: staticsafe: keep up the good work ***: Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: this irc log is disconcerting ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer)
mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) up_the_irons: glad i never stored a credit card number on the server mercutio: i'd be more concerned with data integriy up_the_irons: i c staticsafe: up_the_irons: how do you process CC numbers? ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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mnathani waves back at RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: hey mnathani: How are things with Perl and Git? RandalSchwartz: my next big undertaking is upgrading perl 5.8 to 5.14 on my server
I'm hoping it will be without a hitch
and then freebsd 8.3 to 9.1 after that
can we pick ISOs from a menu now? I forget. ***: mohaslan has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: I know up_the_irons was working on some automated way us end users can change the ISOs
dont think it is live as yet RandalSchwartz: Hmm. not seeing it yet in the UI ***: nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl mnathani: Starwars ... nice
I am liking the asci art ***: toddf has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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