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[14:58] up_the_irons: I despise that venue [15:07] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:07] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:08] *** mohaslan has joined #arpnetworks [15:08] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [15:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [15:14] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:14] *** brycec has quit IRC (Quit: Cheerio, mates.) [15:17] not a fan of linode's practices [15:18] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:19] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [15:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [15:47] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [15:59] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:11] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:14] doomviking: i know, never been there, but still have not had a good feeling about it. [16:14] jbergstroem: what happened to linode? [16:14] * up_the_irons googles [16:17] dang, linode pricing is finally competitive [16:19] A quick Web search implies that it's non-trivial to run FreeBSD on Linode. [16:21] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [16:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [16:26] wow [16:26] some guy in the linode channel on oftc was apparently reading off credit card numbers [16:27] a staff member confirmed they were correct. [16:27] that's bad. [16:29] oh fuck [16:30] mike-burns: yeah but for the linux users, their pricing is now lower than our own [16:30] heh i like how up_the_irons looks up the linode issue, and finds good pricing [16:30] lol [16:30] nad is like is that what the issue is? :) [16:30] *sigh* [16:30] i'm not a fan of linode [16:30] i tried googling it too i didn't find much [16:30] * phlux waves at mercutio [16:30] im dding an image of one of my linodes atm from Finnix [16:31] I'm glad I ditched Linode months ago [16:31] mercutio: yeah well i just looked at their blog and noticed that being the recent post. didn't know about the CC numbers ;) [16:31] phlux: what didn't you like about them? [16:31] up_the_irons: yeh, that's like looking at mcdonalds web site to see complaints about food qualit [16:31] +y [16:32] LOL [16:32] linode network sucks aynway [16:32] except for dallas [16:32] up_the_irons: I really always hated their support times and support quality. When I had a real issue, it was always assumed that it was just my problem, and that I must've done something to create the issue. [16:32] mercutio: even their new network? looked pretty "expensive" to me ;) [16:33] and last i knew their disk performance sucks [16:33] phlux: ah ok [16:33] up_the_irons: that's routers, not upstreams. [16:33] up_the_irons: Now, I also hate the fact that they're complete noobs when it comes to security. [16:33] mercutio: gotcha [16:33] up_the_irons: i'm sure you understand how upstream is more important than router choice normally [16:33] phlux: lol [16:33] other than the bridging mess issue that lots of larger vps providers hit [16:33] mercutio: i suppose i just assumed they bought some good upstreams along with their new gear ;) [16:33] but expensive routers isn't really the best fix. [16:34] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [16:34] up_the_irons: they very well could. [16:34] mercutio: bridging mess? u mean like tons of ARP's on the line? [16:34] they're definitely big enough to buy from upstreams in multiple locations and have their own shared network [16:34] up_the_irons: like 500+ hosts in one bridging domain [16:34] yeah [16:34] mercutio: ah ok, yeah [16:35] although i think it's more often 2000+ [16:35] it's like we need more ip's, get more ip's, we need people to be able to get extra ip's, so we can't have seperate domains [16:36] http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/linode-resets-passwords-after-discovering-customer-hacking-attempt [16:36] "attempt" heh [16:36] i see what you mean about linode pricing looking attractive though [16:37] i guess we should rename that to "success" now [16:37] mercutio: yeah, but tortoiselabs's prices are even better tbh [16:37] i've thought about up'ing the 768MB RAM plan to 1024MB RAM. nice even number.. 1G for $20. trouble is I don't have the hardware. [16:37] but i use arp because of the quality of the vps [16:37] i could do it for new accounts, but not older ones [16:37] up_the_irons: i'd be more keen for more cpu cores tbh [16:38] mercutio: roger [16:38] it doesn't need to be 8 cpu cores on $20 plan [16:38] ARP is great, just HE needs to stop randomly dying Q_Q [16:38] but more than 1 would be nice [16:39] ARP has been my most stable and quick VPS [16:39] i've had constant pcaket loss to arp for a while now :( [16:39] That's why I don't mind paying what I pay [16:39] i'm hoping this new router thing comes in [16:39] with ntt [16:39] and that that fixes the issue [16:39] NTT is a v4 and v6 session? [16:39] err by consant, i mean nightly rather than 24/7 [16:39] static: yeh [16:39] well that gives us some variety [16:39] yeah we'll have native v6 with NTT too, so finally another upstream for v6 [16:40] up_the_irons: can mzima not do ipv6? [16:40] mercutio: i've asked them before and they never get back to me [16:40] so i wrote it off cuz i know NTT will be better anyway [16:40] up_the_irons: heh maybe you need to cron it [16:40] haha [16:40] send an email everyone month asking for an update as to their ipv6 readyness [16:40] seer every month [16:41] :) [16:41] i cant' type [16:41] so much for mechanical keyboard fixing my typing [16:41] i imagine when new router comes in some routes will be a bit better too from having full bgp [16:42] i just relinked all my leaf servers to my ARP vps :) [16:42] leaf servers? [16:42] IRC network [16:43] ahh [16:43] what irc network is that [16:43] why do i always forget who people are [16:43] irc.entropynet.net [16:44] oh i'm connected to that [17:04] up_the_irons: a lot of opinions, but this is essentially what stirred it up: http://turtle.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/linode/linode-abridged.txt [17:05] and hacker news obviously goes wild on hearsay's. in a sense doesn't matter until confirmed, but a lot of their customers probably has a religious relationship with hn [17:07] Linode staffer - FWIW, last four are stored separately from full card numbers to be used for display in places in the manager. Also, additional blog post is forthcoming asap [17:07] jbergstroem: wow [17:08] staticsafe: keep up the good work [17:09] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] this irc log is disconcerting [17:21] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:22] *** mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:22] glad i never stored a credit card number on the server [17:22] i'd be more concerned with data integriy [17:22] i c [17:24] up_the_irons: how do you process CC numbers? [17:29] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:32] staticsafe: gpg encrypted version is stored on the server and the private key is offline [18:16] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [19:05] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [19:05] * RandalSchwartz waves at the channel [19:06] * mnathani waves back at RandalSchwartz [19:07] hey [19:07] How are things with Perl and Git? [19:08] my next big undertaking is upgrading perl 5.8 to 5.14 on my server [19:08] I'm hoping it will be without a hitch [19:08] and then freebsd 8.3 to 9.1 after that [19:08] can we pick ISOs from a menu now? I forget. [19:09] *** mohaslan has joined #arpnetworks [19:09] I know up_the_irons was working on some automated way us end users can change the ISOs [19:09] dont think it is live as yet [19:10] Hmm. not seeing it yet in the UI [20:16] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [20:21] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [20:50] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:50] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [20:54] *** Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [22:33] telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl [22:35] Starwars ... nice [22:36] I am liking the asci art [22:42] *** toddf has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:45] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [22:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [23:10] *** cullum has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [23:29] *** mohaslan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:52] *** cullum has joined #arpnetworks