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jbergstroem: ouf, heavy day for linode users/admins.. i hope they're not one of those "don't delete, rather hide from user" kind of developers since I had an account 8mo ago..
doomviking: up_the_irons: I despise that venue
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phlux: not a fan of linode's practices
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up_the_irons: doomviking: i know, never been there, but still have not had a good feeling about it.
jbergstroem: what happened to linode?
-: up_the_irons googles
up_the_irons: dang, linode pricing is finally competitive
mike-burns: A quick Web search implies that it's non-trivial to run FreeBSD on Linode.
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phlux: wow
some guy in the linode channel on oftc was apparently reading off credit card numbers
a staff member confirmed they were correct.
that's bad.
up_the_irons: oh fuck
mike-burns: yeah but for the linux users, their pricing is now lower than our own
mercutio: heh i like how up_the_irons looks up the linode issue, and finds good pricing
phlux: lol
mercutio: nad is like is that what the issue is? :)
staticsafe: *sigh*
mercutio: i'm not a fan of linode
i tried googling it too i didn't find much
-: phlux waves at mercutio
staticsafe: im dding an image of one of my linodes atm from Finnix
phlux: I'm glad I ditched Linode months ago
up_the_irons: mercutio: yeah well i just looked at their blog and noticed that being the recent post. didn't know about the CC numbers ;)
phlux: what didn't you like about them?
mercutio: up_the_irons: yeh, that's like looking at mcdonalds web site to see complaints about food qualit
+y
up_the_irons: LOL
mercutio: linode network sucks aynway
except for dallas
phlux: up_the_irons: I really always hated their support times and support quality. When I had a real issue, it was always assumed that it was just my problem, and that I must've done something to create the issue.
up_the_irons: mercutio: even their new network? looked pretty "expensive" to me ;)
mercutio: and last i knew their disk performance sucks
up_the_irons: phlux: ah ok
mercutio: up_the_irons: that's routers, not upstreams.
phlux: up_the_irons: Now, I also hate the fact that they're complete noobs when it comes to security.
up_the_irons: mercutio: gotcha
mercutio: up_the_irons: i'm sure you understand how upstream is more important than router choice normally
up_the_irons: phlux: lol
mercutio: other than the bridging mess issue that lots of larger vps providers hit
up_the_irons: mercutio: i suppose i just assumed they bought some good upstreams along with their new gear ;)
mercutio: but expensive routers isn't really the best fix.
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mercutio: up_the_irons: they very well could.
up_the_irons: mercutio: bridging mess? u mean like tons of ARP's on the line?
mercutio: they're definitely big enough to buy from upstreams in multiple locations and have their own shared network
up_the_irons: like 500+ hosts in one bridging domain
up_the_irons: yeah
mercutio: ah ok, yeah
mercutio: although i think it's more often 2000+
it's like we need more ip's, get more ip's, we need people to be able to get extra ip's, so we can't have seperate domains
phlux: http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/linode-resets-passwords-after-discovering-customer-hacking-attempt
"attempt" heh
mercutio: i see what you mean about linode pricing looking attractive though
phlux: i guess we should rename that to "success" now
mercutio: yeah, but tortoiselabs's prices are even better tbh
up_the_irons: i've thought about up'ing the 768MB RAM plan to 1024MB RAM. nice even number.. 1G for $20. trouble is I don't have the hardware.
phlux: but i use arp because of the quality of the vps
up_the_irons: i could do it for new accounts, but not older ones
mercutio: up_the_irons: i'd be more keen for more cpu cores tbh
up_the_irons: mercutio: roger
mercutio: it doesn't need to be 8 cpu cores on $20 plan
staticsafe: ARP is great, just HE needs to stop randomly dying Q_Q
mercutio: but more than 1 would be nice
phlux: ARP has been my most stable and quick VPS
mercutio: i've had constant pcaket loss to arp for a while now :(
phlux: That's why I don't mind paying what I pay
mercutio: i'm hoping this new router thing comes in
with ntt
and that that fixes the issue
staticsafe: NTT is a v4 and v6 session?
mercutio: err by consant, i mean nightly rather than 24/7
static: yeh
staticsafe: well that gives us some variety
up_the_irons: yeah we'll have native v6 with NTT too, so finally another upstream for v6
mercutio: up_the_irons: can mzima not do ipv6?
up_the_irons: mercutio: i've asked them before and they never get back to me
so i wrote it off cuz i know NTT will be better anyway
mercutio: up_the_irons: heh maybe you need to cron it
up_the_irons: haha
mercutio: send an email everyone month asking for an update as to their ipv6 readyness
seer every month
staticsafe: :)
mercutio: i cant' type
so much for mechanical keyboard fixing my typing
i imagine when new router comes in some routes will be a bit better too from having full bgp
staticsafe: i just relinked all my leaf servers to my ARP vps :)
mercutio: leaf servers?
staticsafe: IRC network
mercutio: ahh
what irc network is that
why do i always forget who people are
staticsafe: irc.entropynet.net
mercutio: oh i'm connected to that
jbergstroem: up_the_irons: a lot of opinions, but this is essentially what stirred it up: http://turtle.dereferenced.org/~nenolod/linode/linode-abridged.txt
and hacker news obviously goes wild on hearsay's. in a sense doesn't matter until confirmed, but a lot of their customers probably has a religious relationship with hn
staticsafe: Linode staffer - FWIW, last four are stored separately from full card numbers to be used for display in places in the manager. Also, additional blog post is forthcoming asap
up_the_irons: jbergstroem: wow
jbergstroem: staticsafe: keep up the good work
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up_the_irons: glad i never stored a credit card number on the server
mercutio: i'd be more concerned with data integriy
up_the_irons: i c
staticsafe: up_the_irons: how do you process CC numbers?
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up_the_irons: staticsafe: gpg encrypted version is stored on the server and the private key is offline
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RandalSchwartz: hey
mnathani: How are things with Perl and Git?
RandalSchwartz: my next big undertaking is upgrading perl 5.8 to 5.14 on my server
I'm hoping it will be without a hitch
and then freebsd 8.3 to 9.1 after that
can we pick ISOs from a menu now? I forget.
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mnathani: I know up_the_irons was working on some automated way us end users can change the ISOs
dont think it is live as yet
RandalSchwartz: Hmm. not seeing it yet in the UI
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mercutio: telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl
mnathani: Starwars ... nice
I am liking the asci art
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