[00:32] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:57] *** toorop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:04] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [01:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [01:09] *** toorop has joined #arpnetworks [01:09] *** toorop has quit IRC (Changing host) [01:09] *** toorop has joined #arpnetworks [01:21] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [01:24] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [01:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [01:33] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [01:35] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:36] *** somebody__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:37] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [01:41] *** somebody__ has joined #arpnetworks [01:47] up_the_irons: Awake? :D [01:48] SpaceDump: were you active on ircnet ~98-99? I have this strong memory of us talking about bbs stuff for some reason [01:55] perhaps earlier. time flies.. [01:58] jbergstroem: Could be, I've been on irc since 93. :) [02:09] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [02:26] *** Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:34] *** jstephan has joined #arpnetworks [05:41] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [05:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [05:44] *** plett_ is now known as plett [06:02] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [06:46] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:05] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [07:07] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [07:17] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [07:19] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [08:01] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:35] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [09:01] nixbag: That's what dns and /etc/hosts is for :P Besides if it's just your own /64, then you only have to remember 4 "quads" :p [10:13] *** bitslip_ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:06] *** gcw|mini1 has joined #arpnetworks [11:10] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:11] *** Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [11:51] what's that shell / terminal that is good for flakey connections? I wonder if it would help customers experiencing high latency in the shell simply b/c of distance (customers in brazil have like 190ms latency) [11:52] mosh [11:52] phlux: tnx! [11:53] aye [12:06] mosh seems to be the thing to use, works great on trains with flakey 3g or onboard wifi ;) [12:06] it's a bit of a memory hog [12:06] that's the only con there [12:06] (both server-side and client-side in my experience) [12:07] thankfully ram is cheap :) [12:10] needs udp connectivity [12:10] (in case they are behind restrictive firewalls) [12:10] nat/proxies/whatever [14:04] Whoa, oh no, not 190ms! [14:05] * brycec glares at the Time Warner cable connection at work that spikes over 1000ms [14:05] * staticsafe hugs brycec [14:08] Yeah... Apparently my SLA doesn't cover latency [14:08] *stab* [14:08] brycec: they prob have high packet loss too [14:08] Not that I've noticed [14:08] no them not you :/ [14:08] oh the Brazilians [14:09] you've prob got high buffer bloat :/ [14:09] But they're assholes to deal with [14:09] when you say "at work" [14:09] your owrk is using cable? [14:09] so it suggests to me that maybe people are uploading ? [14:10] bufferbloat on cable networks often happens on the upload side... [14:10] which you can control. [14:10] "Look at this latency! It's unacceptable!" "When you download, your latency is going to increase." "NOT BY 10-50x!!" [14:10] mercutio: I'm the only person that works in the office. [14:10] oh real [14:10] And it's a "business class" account/connection [14:10] what speed is it? [14:10] 15/5 as I recall [14:10] have you tried reducing your window size? [14:10] but that is pretty gross [14:12] I haven't tried anything really - the same gear (pfSense router, network switches, computers) all worked just fine before the move on a much faster connection, and before that, a slower connection, so there really shouldn't be any configuration problems :/ [14:12] And the latency starts at the first hop beyond the modem [14:13] it's probably the way they're shaping you [14:14] like my dsl connection lags something chronic if uploading [14:14] although i was looking through the config dump [14:14] and i saw something about qos set to disabled, and set it to enabled, and it reduced from like 800 msec to 200 msec [14:15] lol, well congrats on that [14:15] but download is much harder to fix [14:15] I'm left campaigning for a leased line [14:15] other than by reducing window size [14:15] dark fibre? :) [14:16] there's a company nearby that does it, I sent them an email but never heard back :( [14:16] Also I expect that to be $$$ [14:16] yeah [14:16] (TW eventually admitted that some backhaul between $city and $upstream had been down since last week) [14:17] oh so your downloading is creating issues? [14:17] oh what [14:17] yeah, I notice it while downloading [14:17] brb gonna test [14:17] so they don't have any of their own capacity out of the city? [14:19] Still doing it today (they claimed it would be fixed by yesterday) [14:20] I have no idea [14:20] I didn't notice any speed limitations... but that's only half the story of course [14:20] Spiked to 1660ms as I downloaded a file [14:21] O_o [14:21] umm [14:22] (the download maxed the connection's 15mbps) [14:22] do you know anyone else in the city on same provider? [14:22] maybe ip address in same subnet would work :/ [14:22] it'd be interesting to see if other peoples latency goes up or just yours [14:23] interesting not meaning actually fix your problem at all :/ [14:24] heh unfortunately I don't [14:24] (and my home is the next state over, on Comcast) [15:01] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [16:12] *** gcw|mini1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:44] *** E1ven has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:50] SpaceDump: figures. btw, saw that you hang out on sthix - tell robban and rickhard i said hi :) [17:15] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [17:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [17:20] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:38] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [17:57] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [18:05] doomviking: nixbag : iron maiden playing 9/13 in San Bernardino [18:29] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:44] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [18:44] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [18:44] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [18:53] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [19:25] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [19:31] *** Micah_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:31] can anyone help me with an issue I'm having on my VPS? [19:32] My cusor on my VPS doesn't move at the same rate as on my computer. [19:32] As in you're experiencing typing delays? [19:34] up_the_irons: I am hoping to see them when they come here. [19:36] No, just my cursor [19:37] phlux: No, just my cursor [19:37] ..? as in mouse cursor? [19:37] Yes [19:37] I've got no experience with using the mouse on a VPS..are you running X or something? [19:37] what do you mean? [19:38] I'm using a vnc viewer [19:38] Is this a Windows VPS or something? [19:38] yeah it has xp on it right now [19:38] Ahhhh [19:38] that explains it. I have absolutely no idea on that one. [19:39] alright [19:39] know anyone else that could help me? [19:39] I only have Linux/FreeBSD VPSes :| [19:39] ah ok [19:39] Best bet is to create a support ticket on the website or wait for up_the_irons to come around [19:40] alright, is he on here a lot? [20:09] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [20:29] *** somebody__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [20:33] *** somebody__ has joined #arpnetworks [20:38] if you are using a mouse in a vps you're going to want the usb tablet cmdline option to kvm [20:39] -usb -usbdevice tablet [20:39] looks like its not enabled by default [22:12] jbergstroem: Will do! :D