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| SpaceDump | up_the_irons: Awake? :D | [01:47] |
| jbergstroem | SpaceDump: were you active on ircnet ~98-99? I have this strong memory of us talking about bbs stuff for some reason | [01:48] |
| perhaps earlier. time flies.. | [01:55] | |
| SpaceDump | jbergstroem: Could be, I've been on irc since 93. :) | [01:58] |
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| brycec | nixbag: That's what dns and /etc/hosts is for :P Besides if it's just your own /64, then you only have to remember 4 "quads" :p | [09:01] |
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| up_the_irons | what's that shell / terminal that is good for flakey connections? I wonder if it would help customers experiencing high latency in the shell simply b/c of distance (customers in brazil have like 190ms latency) | [11:51] |
| phlux | mosh | [11:52] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: tnx! | [11:52] |
| phlux | aye | [11:53] |
| GluffiS | mosh seems to be the thing to use, works great on trains with flakey 3g or onboard wifi ;) | [12:06] |
| phlux | it's a bit of a memory hog
that's the only con there (both server-side and client-side in my experience) | [12:06] |
| up_the_irons | thankfully ram is cheap :) | [12:07] |
| mikeputnam | needs udp connectivity
(in case they are behind restrictive firewalls) nat/proxies/whatever | [12:10] |
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| brycec | Whoa, oh no, not 190ms!
brycec glares at the Time Warner cable connection at work that spikes over 1000ms | [14:04] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe hugs brycec | [14:05] |
| brycec | Yeah... Apparently my SLA doesn't cover latency
*stab* | [14:08] |
| mercutio | brycec: they prob have high packet loss too | [14:08] |
| brycec | Not that I've noticed | [14:08] |
| mercutio | no them not you :/ | [14:08] |
| brycec | oh the Brazilians | [14:08] |
| mercutio | you've prob got high buffer bloat :/ | [14:09] |
| brycec | But they're assholes to deal with | [14:09] |
| mercutio | when you say "at work"
your owrk is using cable? so it suggests to me that maybe people are uploading ? bufferbloat on cable networks often happens on the upload side... which you can control. | [14:09] |
| brycec | "Look at this latency! It's unacceptable!" "When you download, your latency is going to increase." "NOT BY 10-50x!!"
mercutio: I'm the only person that works in the office. | [14:10] |
| mercutio | oh real | [14:10] |
| brycec | And it's a "business class" account/connection | [14:10] |
| mercutio | what speed is it? | [14:10] |
| brycec | 15/5 as I recall | [14:10] |
| mercutio | have you tried reducing your window size?
but that is pretty gross | [14:10] |
| brycec | I haven't tried anything really - the same gear (pfSense router, network switches, computers) all worked just fine before the move on a much faster connection, and before that, a slower connection, so there really shouldn't be any configuration problems :/
And the latency starts at the first hop beyond the modem | [14:12] |
| mercutio | it's probably the way they're shaping you
like my dsl connection lags something chronic if uploading although i was looking through the config dump and i saw something about qos set to disabled, and set it to enabled, and it reduced from like 800 msec to 200 msec | [14:13] |
| brycec | lol, well congrats on that | [14:15] |
| mercutio | but download is much harder to fix | [14:15] |
| brycec | I'm left campaigning for a leased line | [14:15] |
| mercutio | other than by reducing window size
dark fibre? :) | [14:15] |
| brycec | there's a company nearby that does it, I sent them an email but never heard back :(
Also I expect that to be $$$ | [14:16] |
| mercutio | yeah | [14:16] |
| brycec | (TW eventually admitted that some backhaul between $city and $upstream had been down since last week) | [14:16] |
| mercutio | oh so your downloading is creating issues?
oh what | [14:17] |
| brycec | yeah, I notice it while downloading
brb gonna test | [14:17] |
| mercutio | so they don't have any of their own capacity out of the city? | [14:17] |
| brycec | Still doing it today (they claimed it would be fixed by yesterday)
I have no idea I didn't notice any speed limitations... but that's only half the story of course Spiked to 1660ms as I downloaded a file | [14:19] |
| staticsafe | O_o | [14:21] |
| mercutio | umm | [14:21] |
| brycec | (the download maxed the connection's 15mbps) | [14:22] |
| mercutio | do you know anyone else in the city on same provider?
maybe ip address in same subnet would work :/ it'd be interesting to see if other peoples latency goes up or just yours interesting not meaning actually fix your problem at all :/ | [14:22] |
| brycec | heh unfortunately I don't
(and my home is the next state over, on Comcast) | [14:24] |
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| jbergstroem | SpaceDump: figures. btw, saw that you hang out on sthix - tell robban and rickhard i said hi :) | [16:50] |
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| Micah_ | can anyone help me with an issue I'm having on my VPS?
My cusor on my VPS doesn't move at the same rate as on my computer. | [19:31] |
| phlux | As in you're experiencing typing delays? | [19:32] |
| nixbag | up_the_irons: I am hoping to see them when they come here. | [19:34] |
| Micah_ | No, just my cursor
phlux: No, just my cursor | [19:36] |
| phlux | ..? as in mouse cursor? | [19:37] |
| Micah_ | Yes | [19:37] |
| phlux | I've got no experience with using the mouse on a VPS..are you running X or something? | [19:37] |
| Micah_ | what do you mean?
I'm using a vnc viewer | [19:37] |
| phlux | Is this a Windows VPS or something? | [19:38] |
| Micah_ | yeah it has xp on it right now | [19:38] |
| phlux | Ahhhh
that explains it. I have absolutely no idea on that one. | [19:38] |
| Micah_ | alright
know anyone else that could help me? | [19:39] |
| phlux | I only have Linux/FreeBSD VPSes :| | [19:39] |
| Micah_ | ah ok | [19:39] |
| phlux | Best bet is to create a support ticket on the website or wait for up_the_irons to come around | [19:39] |
| Micah_ | alright, is he on here a lot? | [19:40] |
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| toddf | if you are using a mouse in a vps you're going to want the usb tablet cmdline option to kvm
-usb -usbdevice tablet looks like its not enabled by default | [20:38] |
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| SpaceDump | jbergstroem: Will do! :D | [22:12] |
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