#arpnetworks 2013-04-03,Wed

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toothanyone on kv13 having disk issues? (just making sure it's not me) [10:44]
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arenlorup_the_irons: You around? [11:02]
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dr_jklup_the_irons: thank you :D [16:00]
up_the_irons:) [16:01]
dr_jkloh
derp
how the hell did i forget to send my uuid
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phluxup_the_irons: i updated my CC info. sorry for not fixing that before the expiration [16:02]
dr_jkl<- absent minded professor [16:02]
up_the_ironsphlux: cool tnx [16:02]
dr_jkland i've sent in my uuid! [16:02]
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up_the_ironsdang... seems my support ticket replies over the last few days haven't got back to the customers :( [16:21]
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up_the_ironsi haven't had coffee in a while.. now i just made some.. oh man, sweet, sweet, coffee... [17:49]
RandalSchwartzMust upgrade my server friday
can't be on a EOL release of perl :(
up_the_irons - have you followed my weight loss?
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arenlorup_the_irons: Sent the email. [17:52]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: followed? [17:52]
arenlorRandalSchwartz: What version of perl is being EOL? [17:52]
up_the_ironsarenlor: what email? :)
arenlor: OH, yeah...
lord of darkness...
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arenlorup_the_irons: ^_^ [17:53]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i've followed this for over a year: http://www.amazon.com/Mens-Health-TNT-Diet-Explosive/dp/1594869766 [17:53]
RandalSchwartzthe one I'm running :) [17:53]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: which is similar to what you are doing. No Carbs, in summary... [17:54]
RandalSchwartzNo - not no carbs. [17:54]
up_the_ironsexcept before workout [17:54]
RandalSchwartzlow carbs moderate protein high fat [17:54]
up_the_ironsand weekends are OK [17:54]
RandalSchwartzI'm lazy, so I didn't change any exercise
and I'm not interested in a lot more muscle. :)
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i lift weights, so i do high protein, low carbs. i don't really track the fat. but i'm sure i get a lot of fat eating meat and cheese all the time ;) [17:55]
RandalSchwartzbut I've lost 45 pounds, and six inches around my waist, and gone from stage 2 hypertension to nominal blood pressure, without counting calories or being hungry
all in six months
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: right, that's what happens :)
i'm much less hungry too
carbs / sugar just keep you hungry all the time.
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arenlorLow carb is fun, you can wake up, fry bacon and eggs and then laugh at all the suckers who think that running two miles helps. [17:56]
RandalSchwartzMy protein is modest. 0.7 to 1g per kg of lean mass.
so I eat a half pound burger, or a nice pile of organic cheese from sprouts every day
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: but about muscle -- muscles require calories even at rest, so the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn by doing absolutely nothing. so it helps to add a bit of muscle. [17:57]
RandalSchwartzthat's "replacement" level. not bulking out level [17:57]
up_the_ironsyeah [17:57]
RandalSchwartzsure... but I'm doing fine by even not doing that :) [17:57]
up_the_ironsif you're happy, you're happy :) [17:58]
RandalSchwartzsure
and I look a lot younger
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arenlorRandalSchwartz: You need to do another karaoke stream some time. [17:58]
RandalSchwartzand I had to buy a whole new wardrobe. twice. [17:58]
up_the_ironsso what is your bp now, 170/110? something u mentioned yesterday or so... [17:58]
RandalSchwartzMight do it this weekend
heading back to pyzanos
that was before
now 110/70
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up_the_ironsah ok
damn
lower than mine
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RandalSchwartzno meds either [17:59]
up_the_ironsi'm 120/80 [17:59]
RandalSchwartzand no workouts [17:59]
arenlorup_the_irons: Yours is still healthy though. [17:59]
up_the_ironsyeah [17:59]
RandalSchwartzyeah 120/80 is nominal [17:59]
arenlorThe real question is heart rate. [17:59]
RandalSchwartzuntil a few decades ago, 130/90 was nominal too
but then they wanted to sell drugs
same thing with cholesterol levles
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up_the_ironsarenlor: yeah, nixbag has a medical background and he told me the new "normal" is 120/80, and that 110/70 is now considered lower than normal (which is not necessarily good) [18:00]
RandalSchwartz"if yoiur doctor suggests statins, suggest a new doctor" [18:00]
arenlorMy BP is low enough that they can't give me certain drugs. [18:00]
RandalSchwartzhow about uncertain drugs? [18:01]
up_the_ironsarenlor: yeah, heart rate is important too, and that is where only exercise can decrease your resting heart rate [18:01]
arenlorRandalSchwartz: Even worse, though I've been given some of them. One tried to destroy my RAM [18:01]
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up_the_ironsbrb, hot dogs grillin... ;) [18:01]
RandalSchwartzmm. dogs [18:01]
arenlorHeh, it's too damned cold here to grill quite yet.
There were a few warmer days that I did though.
RandalSchwartz: Your portland body get use to being warm in LA yet?
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RandalSchwartzI've been all over
I almost don't remember Portland any more
not that it would be the same
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toddfso random note, 802.11AD (QinQ) aka ethertype 0x88a8 can be unblocked if requested between kvr systems.. if you have multiple vps'es and want a private'ish network between them, svlan(4) on OpenBSD at least works great ;-) [19:01]
up_the_ironstoddf: eventually i'll just allow 0x88a8 across all hosts [19:07]
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nixbagup_the_irons: hot dogs sounds good. I think i'll have to make some. [20:00]
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