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[01:23] <up_the_irons> can someone on FreeBSD 9.x verify the last stanza in:
[01:23] <up_the_irons> http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/how-to-configure-ipv6-on-freebsd
[01:23] <up_the_irons> i just updated it with "For FreeBSD 9.0 and later", but i don't have a system to test that for sure
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[05:09] <up_the_irons> i am a blogging machine these days
[05:09] <up_the_irons> http://scie.nti.st/2013/3/5/how-to-add-a-new-partition-on-openbsd/
[05:09] <up_the_irons> many struggle when we extend their volume, to add a new partition, so there.
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[06:23] <vin\> anybody awake here?
[06:24] <vin\> i need help... I need my /usr/sys/src so i can recompile my kernel on my vps
[06:26] <mike-burns> vin\: http://bit.ly/Yayf3r - does this have the advice you need?
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[06:58] <vin\> mike-burns no what I need to know is can you guys put the src files on my vps account?
[06:58] <vin\> or do I have to download them from freebsd site?
[07:01] <brycec> Probably the latter
[07:02] <mike-burns> The latter.
[07:02] <staticsafe> up_the_irons: that support page looks correct
[07:02] <staticsafe> ipv6_activate_all_interfaces="YES" - not sure this is needed though
[07:04] <vin\> ping vin\
[07:05] * brycec waits for vin\ to pong himself
[07:05] <vin\> lols
[07:05] * vin\ still waiting for response from support
[07:06] <vin\> im afk for awhile... pls pm me the response. thank you
[07:09] <mike-burns> vin\: Put the source files on your own machine.
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[07:19] <vin\> but its gonna cost a lot of bandwith to put it
[07:20] <vin\> hmmm can aprnetworks support put the src files without costing me any bandwith? im willing to pay for it... of course for a reasonable price :)
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[08:05] <brycec> Perhaps if it's on the install ISO? SUpport can easily attach that to your machine and you can copy from there
[08:06] <brycec> up_the_irons: Do I remember correctly that you were going to run a mirror?
[08:06] <brycec> At least for your own subnets, for the OS that you provide images for?
[08:08] <brycec> "a lot of bandwidth" 92MB is *not* a lot of b/w...  :/
[08:08] <brycec> It's .001 of your monthly quota
[08:09] <brycec> but vin\ isn't here to get all this knowledge dropped on him
[08:09] <ant> brycec: i think you remember correctly: http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/
[08:10] <brycec> well that's fantastic
[08:11] <brycec> up_the_irons: So... how come Debian isn't mirrored?
[08:12] <brycec> (oh sweet, it's dual v4/v6 too)
[08:31] <staticsafe> TIL arpnetworks has a mirror
[08:31] <brycec> lol
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[16:18] <up_the_irons> staticsafe: roger, tnx
[16:20] <up_the_irons> brycec: I think vin\ is misunderstanding how much bandwidth will actually be used
[16:20] <brycec> I agree
[16:20] <brycec> But vin\ disappeared, so I couldn't enlighten them :(
[16:20] <up_the_irons> brycec: we don't mirror debian simply cuz i never got around to doing it
[16:20] <brycec> Also, as a Debian customer/user, I am outraged at the lack of Debian on the mirror!
[16:20] <staticsafe> up_the_irons: the gritty details of the interface configuration is in man rc.conf fwiw
[16:20] <brycec> ah, lol
[16:21] <up_the_irons> i still need to tell FreeBSD about our mirror, so i can sync from the "official" master
[16:21] <up_the_irons> brycec: LOL
[16:21] <up_the_irons> staticsafe: i am outsourcing the reading of the man page to this channel... ;)
[16:21] <brycec> I'm also outraged at the 100mbps mirror-vps link, when I can pull at near gigabit speeds externally.
[16:21] <brycec> (But I understand the reason, just think it's funny/dumb)
[16:22] <mercutio> brycec: most people have 100 megabit :)
[16:23] <brycec> heh, I found out my Chunkhost VPS has >100mbps but pulling a 2.5GB ISO at 62.8MB/s
[16:23] <brycec> I was astonished
[16:24] <up_the_irons> brycec: when the new switch is all set to go, VMs will get gigabit everywhere
[16:24] <brycec> (Route is Chunkhost - Peer1 - ARP, for those interested)
[16:24] <brycec> up_the_irons: w00t
[16:24] <brycec> GbE to the mirror!
[16:24] <up_the_irons> yeah the mirror externally has a 1 gbps link
[16:25] <brycec> up_the_irons: o/ you da man
[16:25] <up_the_irons> brycec: i did set up a dedicated VPS <-> mirror / backup server VLAN.  so if you really want, i can add an interface to your VPS which will let you get 1 Gbps right now ;)
[16:25] <brycec> Want: Yes. Need: No. But thanks for the offer.
[16:25] <up_the_irons> brycec: but only to the backup / mirror server (they are the same box), and only over IPv6.  no reason to do IPv4 on the same network.  Let's be progressive!
[16:26] <brycec> I get godawful performance v6 vs v4. :(
[16:26] <brycec> v4 is usally 10x faster
[16:26] <brycec> And that's internal, unrouted, same segment etc
[16:26] <up_the_irons> brycec: but i'm talkin' v6 over same LAN, so it'll be f'in fast.  I grab ISOs myself from my own mirror that way.  very fast.
[16:27] <up_the_irons> brycec: well, that's weird.  i get a lot better performance over the v6 1 gbps link.
[16:27] <brycec> Yeah, I've seen it at home and at the office, so it's not equipment related
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[16:28] <brycec> up_the_irons: hitting the mirror via HE, I get 10MB/s, but using IPv4, I get 60MB/s
[16:28] <brycec> ^ That's probably just HE. I'm not using that as an example re:performance
[16:29] <up_the_irons> brycec: so yes, that's HE b/c the IPv6 router is only 100 Mbps.  But on same LAN segment, it can be 1 Gbps.
[16:29] <brycec> cool
[16:29] <brycec> Well, looking forward to the new router and GbE internally
[16:30] <up_the_irons> \m/
[16:31] <brycec> up_the_irons: Will there be any changes to the VM (i.e. will we need to reboot) for the new switch/GbE?
[16:31] * brycec assumes not, but asks to be sure
[16:32] <up_the_irons> brycec: no
[17:02] <up_the_irons> brycec: how have you found Chunkhost to be, reliability and performance wise?
[17:04] <brycec> They're okay. Been with 'em for a long time now, no major issues or anything. Their biggest problem is Xen/disk IO (and to an extent, overloading)
[17:04] <brycec> Sometimes I'll see my disk read/write wait time spike to 500ms/op and stay there for a half hor
[17:04] <brycec> *hour
[17:04] <mercutio> brycec: having radically diff ipv4 and ipv6 perfromance seems common atm
[17:04] <mercutio> but sometimes it can alternate which is better
[17:05] <brycec> mercutio: If I went jumbo, I think I could get better performance out of v6... But cheap nics only get me so far.
[17:05] <mercutio> brycec: jumbo isn't common on intrenet yet :((
[17:05] <brycec> ha, yeah, no...
[17:05] <mercutio> cheap nics are fine often
[17:06] <mercutio> i get like 105megabytes/sec at home on realtek
[17:06] <brycec> up_the_irons: I definitely prefer ARP - better pricing, an IRC channel, native ipv6, a cool vibe
[17:06] <brycec> up_the_irons: oh and KVM, of course. Nice to have "bare metal" virt (with vnc)
[17:07] <up_the_irons> brycec: cool, thanks for the feedback
[17:07] <brycec> mercutio: The problem I run into with "cheap nics" is that they don't support full 9000 byte jumbo frames. Last I tried, I could get a realtek up to 7200
[17:07] <mercutio> brycec: i'm running mtu at 6k
[17:07] <mercutio> i think it can do higher
[17:07] <brycec> up_the_irons: Ever considered a customer satisfaction survey, say 2mo after signup?
[17:08] <mercutio> but not really much more benefit going higher
[17:08] <up_the_irons> brycec: considered it, but am always too busy with other stuff
[17:08] <mercutio> i wouldn't even say it'd be a benefit at gigabit
[17:08] <brycec> That seems to be the one advantage Chunkhost has over ARP - they're more than just one guy ;)
[17:09] <mercutio> brycec: that's n ot necessarily an advantage
[17:09] <brycec> mercutio: what happens if up_the_irons spontaneously ignites?
[17:09] <brycec> I think we all end up screwed... Unless there's someone else?
[17:10] <up_the_irons> lol, you'd get all your vps' for free
[17:10] <mercutio> brycec: what happens if los angeles has a huge earthquake
[17:10] <brycec> Then I've lost two VPS hosts :p
[17:10] <up_the_irons> since only i have the gpg key to decrypt the credit cards ;)
[17:10] <brycec> and I'm 6 hours closer to the beach!
[17:10] <brycec> hooray!
[17:10] <brycec> s/I'm/I'd be/
[17:10] <mercutio> there can always be things that go wrong
[17:11] <mercutio> you either need redundancy or contigency plans
[17:11] <mercutio> contingency
[17:11] <mercutio> preferably both
[17:11] <mercutio> or to have things that aren't important enough that if you lose them you are severely effected
[17:12] <brycec> there's a reason I have two VPS's ;)
[17:12] <brycec> and that reason would be that I'm lazy and haven't gotten around to migrating more over to ARP
[17:12] <brycec> still it's nice to have redundancy
[17:13] <brycec> which reminds me... I should do another backup
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[22:04] <toddf> brycec: manual backups scare me...
[22:05] <brycec> ha, I just haven't dumped it in a crontab yet.
[22:05] <brycec> Fear not, my standard backups are automatic
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