[01:02] <up_the_irons> iogear is pretty popular for kvm
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[01:18] <plett> That reminds me, does anyone know of any desktops that do have IPMI, or similar. I remember seeing demo videos of people VNCing into the bios of an Intel vPro machine, but that technology doesn't seem to have reached the real world
[01:18] <up_the_irons> i think supermicro desktops have ipmi
[01:19] <ant> my laptop has vpro...a lenovo t61p. but it was the first thing i disabled after purchase. don't know what it is capable of
[01:24] <plett> up_the_irons: That's interesting. Their SuperWorkstations do say they have IPMI. But they appear to just be their normal Xeon server boards in a tower case. I was ideally looking for small and cheap i3 or i5
[01:25] <up_the_irons> plett: keep looking, they have tons of configs.  even their atom servers have ipmi now. (~ $250, just add ram! ;)
[01:25] <up_the_irons> i have one sitting next to me
[01:26] <plett> up_the_irons: That's in a rack mount case though, rather than a tower?
[01:26] <up_the_irons> yeah
[01:27] <plett> And yes, I use a load of supermicro kit at work. I like the little atom servers. We use them as customer-facing DNS resolvers, etc
[01:27] <up_the_irons> ah cool
[01:27] <plett> Things that don't need much processing power, but which are too important to virtualise onto a platform that might depend on them being there
[01:31] <plett> Ahh. They do exist. http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/system/midtower/
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[02:13] <up_the_irons> what would you guys recommend as a good server backup software (e.g. for  your VMs) that supports all three: Linux, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD?
[02:13] <up_the_irons> my thinking: for less technical users that don't know exactly how to set up their own backups, i'd like to provide some docs, or installation help
[02:14] <up_the_irons> duplicity?
[02:14] <up_the_irons> rdiff-backup?
[02:17] <up_the_irons> it appears duplicity runs on them all...
[02:37] <CaZe> rsync? :P
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[03:37] <up_the_irons> CaZe: thing is rsync won't perserve perms, file attribs, etc.. etc.. unless you also have root on the backup server (which customers won't have)
[03:37] <up_the_irons> CaZe: so you need something that handles that meta data (e.g. rdiff-backup, duplicity, etc...)
[03:37] <up_the_irons> bacula is popular among some in here
[03:40] <up_the_irons> plett: cool, you found some :)
[03:42] <up_the_irons> plett: this one would be my pick: http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/system/tower/5037/SYS-5037C-i.cfm
[03:43] <up_the_irons> looks like around $300 USD
[03:44] <up_the_irons> hmm... but i don't see IPMI, bah
[03:44] <plett> up_the_irons: Wow. A built in Matrox G200! I haven't used one of those in years
[03:44] <up_the_irons> lol
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[05:19] <vin\> hello anybody can help? just got a few questions..
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[07:19] <brycec> up_the_irons: deja-dup is a very user-friendly (gui) frontend to duplicity. Ubuntu uses it iirc
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[13:21] <staticsafe> did IPv6 just die?
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[13:28] <twobithacker> Anyone else seeing IPv6 issues?
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[13:29] <brycec> twobithacker, staticsafe: lteo did
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[13:29] <brycec> :p
[13:29] <lteo> twobithacker: yes i did :)
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[13:30] <lteo> can't ping ipv6.google.com at the moment. no responses
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[14:07] <jpalmer> Looks like we're having some fun packet loss style
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[16:56] <phlux> i'm a long-time customer!
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[17:02] <staticsafe> :o
[17:03] <phlux> I don't even know how long I've been with ARPNetworks
[17:03] <phlux> Years now
[17:19] <jbergstroem> ima newb :( 6mo something
[17:21] <staticsafe> Oct 2012 here
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[19:05] <Webhostbudd_> up_the_irons: for backup i'd say go with duplicity
[19:06] <brycec> up_the_irons: probably a good idea to include a mention of sshfs (and the like)
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[20:28] <toddf> phlux: tim spent in this channel tends to indicate ops + being a customer, customer alone, well, .. ;-)
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