iogear is pretty popular for kvm That reminds me, does anyone know of any desktops that do have IPMI, or similar. I remember seeing demo videos of people VNCing into the bios of an Intel vPro machine, but that technology doesn't seem to have reached the real world i think supermicro desktops have ipmi my laptop has vpro...a lenovo t61p. but it was the first thing i disabled after purchase. don't know what it is capable of up_the_irons: That's interesting. Their SuperWorkstations do say they have IPMI. But they appear to just be their normal Xeon server boards in a tower case. I was ideally looking for small and cheap i3 or i5 plett: keep looking, they have tons of configs. even their atom servers have ipmi now. (~ $250, just add ram! ;) i have one sitting next to me up_the_irons: That's in a rack mount case though, rather than a tower? yeah And yes, I use a load of supermicro kit at work. I like the little atom servers. We use them as customer-facing DNS resolvers, etc ah cool Things that don't need much processing power, but which are too important to virtualise onto a platform that might depend on them being there Ahh. They do exist. http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/system/midtower/ what would you guys recommend as a good server backup software (e.g. for your VMs) that supports all three: Linux, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD? my thinking: for less technical users that don't know exactly how to set up their own backups, i'd like to provide some docs, or installation help duplicity? rdiff-backup? it appears duplicity runs on them all... rsync? :P CaZe: thing is rsync won't perserve perms, file attribs, etc.. etc.. unless you also have root on the backup server (which customers won't have) CaZe: so you need something that handles that meta data (e.g. rdiff-backup, duplicity, etc...) bacula is popular among some in here plett: cool, you found some :) plett: this one would be my pick: http://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/system/tower/5037/SYS-5037C-i.cfm looks like around $300 USD hmm... but i don't see IPMI, bah up_the_irons: Wow. A built in Matrox G200! I haven't used one of those in years lol hello anybody can help? just got a few questions.. up_the_irons: deja-dup is a very user-friendly (gui) frontend to duplicity. Ubuntu uses it iirc did IPv6 just die? Anyone else seeing IPv6 issues? twobithacker, staticsafe: lteo did :p twobithacker: yes i did :) can't ping ipv6.google.com at the moment. no responses Looks like we're having some fun packet loss style i'm a long-time customer! :o I don't even know how long I've been with ARPNetworks Years now ima newb :( 6mo something Oct 2012 here up_the_irons: for backup i'd say go with duplicity up_the_irons: probably a good idea to include a mention of sshfs (and the like) phlux: tim spent in this channel tends to indicate ops + being a customer, customer alone, well, .. ;-)