[00:00] jlg: tcp/ip can misbehave when paacket loss happens seomtimes [00:00] and not recover very quickly. esp. at high rtt. [00:18] yeah, i remember reading something about that once [00:20] :) [00:24] newer linux versions deal better than most things fwiw [00:25] as much as it pains me to say it linux is really ahead with tcp/ip stack [03:29] up_the_irons: how is the backup data stored? (for instance, encryption per account?) [03:34] I mostly use tarsnap for "online" backups [04:11] jbergstroem: it's stored however you store it (you determine whether you just want to rsync raw data, or run it through some encryption) [04:11] toddf has an interesting command line to dump all his stuff encrypted to the backup server [04:12] (for privacy purposes i'll let him paste it in the channel if he so chooses) [06:01] It's just '| tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M' right? [06:07] heh [06:09] Hope you're only backing up ascii files [06:40] hah [06:42] sudo dump -0a -f - /u | xz -6 | gpg -e -r me@example.com -z 0 | ssh -i backupkey user@arpnetbackup dd of=$(hostname).u.dmp.xz.gpg bs=1M [06:48] I'm guessing randalschwartz is not around or he'd talk about his spiffy zfs send setup whereby he does snapshots of his system at arpnetworks and does some form of snapshots to a filesystem on a remote server in an efficient manner for a backup solution. I can only guess his mechanism could be easily adapted to the backup server up_the_irons is setting up.. [07:02] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [07:10] lol [07:10] as it happens, it would be pretty easy to replace the dump... with zfs send [07:11] I get something similar to toddf's from using duplicity (it's tar-based rather than dump, and does incremental backups too) [07:54] *** bobdole has joined #arpnetworks [08:07] *** bobdole has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [08:10] *** bobdole has joined #arpnetworks [09:19] *** bobdole has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:15] *** bobdole has joined #arpnetworks [10:25] *** bobdole has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:25] *** bobdole has joined #arpnetworks [11:16] *** ameise_ has joined #arpnetworks [11:16] *** ant has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [11:17] *** ameise_ is now known as ant [11:52] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:59] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [12:48] *** Guest37959 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:27] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [14:33] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [14:52] yeah, elsewhere i use duplicity to create backups split into 100 mb files that are then gpg encrypted and rsync'd to a remote host [15:01] *** CaZe` has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** twobithacker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:03] *** CaZe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:03] *** CaZe` is now known as CaZe [15:03] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:03] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [15:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [15:08] *** twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks [15:15] *** degyves has joined #arpnetworks [15:19] I have just bought my first dns name at gandi. Now (if I understand well) I have to provide gandi with the DNS servers to apply to my bought domain so it will point to my www.myserver.com. Is this the 208.79.88.7 ? [15:20] *** degyves is now known as warex [15:21] I have just bought my first dns name at gandi. Now (if I understand well) I have to provide gandi with the DNS servers to apply to my bought domain so it will point to my www.myserver.com. Is this the 208.79.88.7 ? [15:21] sorry if it appears repeated, I wasn't logged ind correctly [15:25] i have no idea what ip that is, usually you either get someone else to run dns or you run your own [15:25] and if someone else is running dns you have to make sure they have records for your domain name. [15:26] create [15:27] holy dear I don't understand a thing [15:27] I have a VPS with openbsd [15:28] this openbsd server has an ipn address [15:28] gandi proobably has dns [15:28] with a nginx web server [15:28] just create an a record to point to ip address of server [15:28] what are you trying to do? [15:29] I'm trying to write www.mydomain.com and see my VPS's webserver [15:30] write www.mydomain.com in a browser [15:30] go into DNS settings and create an "A record" to point to the VPS ip address [15:30] DNS settings on gandi site [15:32] then ping the domain from outside of the VPS to make sure the domain name is being resolved to the IP [15:33] or nslookup or dig [15:37] gonna try it! [16:11] If gandi.net doesn't offer DNS hosting (but really, what registrar doesn't??) you can use a free one like dns.he.net (<3 them) or you could host it yourself (which, if you're unfamiliar with DNS, you probably shouldn't be doing.) [16:23] has anyone with a beta account tried duplicity on the backup server? [16:23] just wondering if it works... [16:38] brycec: dns.he.net doesn't permit wildcards in records :( [16:38] also gandi does offer really nice dns hosting, but it's incredibly newbie-unfriendly [16:38] it has you make a fork of your zonefile or something, then edit it and merge it or save it back in or something, then swap domains to the new zonefile [16:40] up_the_irons: there should be no reason why it shouldn't because it works even in a completely empty chroot dir with internal-sftp [16:40] DaCa: oh wow, nice [16:41] hazardous: yeah, i noticed that too. their dns manager is really hard to use. [16:41] hazardous: every edit makes a new zone file and you have to make it active before changes take effect; really strange [16:43] haha [16:43] btw - up_the_irons is there anywhere i can look at bandwidth used or graphs out of curiosity [16:50] hazardous: click on "Data Transfer" in the Portal [16:50] ooh pretty [17:03] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:08] up_the_irons: I can't find that option [17:09] DaCa: what option? [17:09] the Data Transfer link in the portal? [17:27] DaCa: email support@ and it'll be added [17:36] I didn't know we could do that [17:36] I set up my own :P [17:36] http://bryant.ewnix.net/vnstat [17:36] phlux: i like the nice text-based printout :) [17:37] Thanks :D There are graphs on the "hours, days and months" links [17:37] But it still prints out a nice table [17:49] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) [17:49] up_the_irons: Yeah I've duplicity'd up to it (it's just ssh/scp... didn't bother trying sftp) [17:51] phlux: cool [17:51] brycec: oh nice! [17:51] (It would also do webdav and ftp_ [18:00] brycec: if you choose scp it will do parts in scp and parts in sftp, but you make it use sftp only which is a big advantage if you want to combine it with openssh's chrootdir and internal-sftp, you don't have to populate the chroot at all [18:01] s/make/can &/ [18:03] kewl [18:04] * brycec uses S3 for 99% of his duplicity backups [18:07] DaCa: ah, an empty chroot is pretty cool [18:09] I made some deals with some friends colocating at different places, we each provide backupspace for each other using ssh chrootdir/internal-sftp/duplicity, ultimate deal [18:13] That's cool [18:14] anyone here tried glacier? [18:14] its apparently 0,01/gb [18:15] *** chris1 has joined #arpnetworks [18:15] DaCa: hah nice [18:15] hazardous: is that amazon's thing? [18:17] *** chris1 has left [18:19] hazardous: I've got some data in glacier [18:20] Never retrieved it though [18:22] (Used Amazon's S3 lifecycle stuff to migrate an S3 bucket of a decomissioned server into Glacier) [18:26] yeah it's amazon's thing up_the_irons [18:26] apparently for long term storage [18:26] ah ok [18:43] *** ant has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:51] *** bobdole has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [18:55] up_the_irons: Basically, it's tape library storage [18:56] brycec: yeah i gathered that [19:15] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [21:14] *** alexstanford16 has joined #arpnetworks [21:21] nixbag: i believe thursday will be a data center day; i'm trying to get them to issue you a perm badge [21:32] oo, badge [21:32] sounds wonderful. probably easier than getting a temp badge :) [21:34] up_the_irons: switched to weechat. it chose the color pink for you. [21:37] lol [21:51] It's okay up_the_irons, irssi/nickcolor.pl gave you blue. [21:52] phew [21:52] i miss irssi already. thinking of going back to it. [21:53] lol [21:53] weechat looks like a text based circus [21:53] I liked weechat. Just haven't had the time to get it all configgered up [21:54] up_the_irons: i should be available all day thursday. [21:54] nixbag: ok, i'll let u know if it comes to fruition [21:55] weechat *is* a text based circuis, that is why it rules [21:55] and vertical split [21:55] and the fact that my cursor is directly under the window upon which the text will appear [21:55] had some embarassing "wrong window" lines go out in irssi [21:57] i'm giving weechat more time before i make any final judgements :) [22:39] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.) [23:40] *** mnathani has quit IRC () [23:59] *** CaZe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)