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mercutio | jlg: tcp/ip can misbehave when paacket loss happens seomtimes
and not recover very quickly. esp. at high rtt. | [00:00] |
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jlgaddis | yeah, i remember reading something about that once
:) | [00:18] |
mercutio | newer linux versions deal better than most things fwiw
as much as it pains me to say it linux is really ahead with tcp/ip stack | [00:24] |
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jbergstroem | up_the_irons: how is the backup data stored? (for instance, encryption per account?) | [03:29] |
I mostly use tarsnap for "online" backups | [03:34] | |
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up_the_irons | jbergstroem: it's stored however you store it (you determine whether you just want to rsync raw data, or run it through some encryption)
toddf has an interesting command line to dump all his stuff encrypted to the backup server (for privacy purposes i'll let him paste it in the channel if he so chooses) | [04:11] |
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mike-burns | It's just '| tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M' right? | [06:01] |
easymac | heh
Hope you're only backing up ascii files | [06:07] |
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toddf | hah
sudo dump -0a -f - /u | xz -6 | gpg -e -r me@example.com -z 0 | ssh -i backupkey user@arpnetbackup dd of=$(hostname).u.dmp.xz.gpg bs=1M | [06:40] |
I'm guessing randalschwartz is not around or he'd talk about his spiffy zfs send setup whereby he does snapshots of his system at arpnetworks and does some form of snapshots to a filesystem on a remote server in an efficient manner for a backup solution. I can only guess his mechanism could be easily adapted to the backup server up_the_irons is setting up.. | [06:48] | |
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brycec | lol
as it happens, it would be pretty easy to replace the dump... with zfs send I get something similar to toddf's from using duplicity (it's tar-based rather than dump, and does incremental backups too) | [07:10] |
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jlgaddis | yeah, elsewhere i use duplicity to create backups split into 100 mb files that are then gpg encrypted and rsync'd to a remote host | [14:52] |
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degyves | I have just bought my first dns name at gandi. Now (if I understand well) I have to provide gandi with the DNS servers to apply to my bought domain so it will point to my www.myserver.com. Is this the 208.79.88.7 ? | [15:19] |
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warex | I have just bought my first dns name at gandi. Now (if I understand well) I have to provide gandi with the DNS servers to apply to my bought domain so it will point to my www.myserver.com. Is this the 208.79.88.7 ?
sorry if it appears repeated, I wasn't logged ind correctly | [15:21] |
mercutio | i have no idea what ip that is, usually you either get someone else to run dns or you run your own
and if someone else is running dns you have to make sure they have records for your domain name. | [15:25] |
bobdole | create | [15:26] |
warex | holy dear I don't understand a thing
I have a VPS with openbsd this openbsd server has an ipn address | [15:27] |
bobdole | gandi proobably has dns | [15:28] |
warex | with a nginx web server | [15:28] |
bobdole | just create an a record to point to ip address of server | [15:28] |
staticsafe | what are you trying to do? | [15:28] |
warex | I'm trying to write www.mydomain.com and see my VPS's webserver
write www.mydomain.com in a browser | [15:29] |
bobdole | go into DNS settings and create an "A record" to point to the VPS ip address
DNS settings on gandi site then ping the domain from outside of the VPS to make sure the domain name is being resolved to the IP or nslookup or dig | [15:30] |
warex | gonna try it! | [15:37] |
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brycec | If gandi.net doesn't offer DNS hosting (but really, what registrar doesn't??) you can use a free one like dns.he.net (<3 them) or you could host it yourself (which, if you're unfamiliar with DNS, you probably shouldn't be doing.) | [16:11] |
up_the_irons | has anyone with a beta account tried duplicity on the backup server?
just wondering if it works... | [16:23] |
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hazardous | brycec: dns.he.net doesn't permit wildcards in records :(
also gandi does offer really nice dns hosting, but it's incredibly newbie-unfriendly it has you make a fork of your zonefile or something, then edit it and merge it or save it back in or something, then swap domains to the new zonefile | [16:38] |
DaCa | up_the_irons: there should be no reason why it shouldn't because it works even in a completely empty chroot dir with internal-sftp | [16:40] |
up_the_irons | DaCa: oh wow, nice
hazardous: yeah, i noticed that too. their dns manager is really hard to use. hazardous: every edit makes a new zone file and you have to make it active before changes take effect; really strange | [16:40] |
hazardous | haha
btw - up_the_irons is there anywhere i can look at bandwidth used or graphs out of curiosity | [16:43] |
up_the_irons | hazardous: click on "Data Transfer" in the Portal | [16:50] |
hazardous | ooh pretty | [16:50] |
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DaCa | up_the_irons: I can't find that option | [17:08] |
up_the_irons | DaCa: what option? | [17:09] |
DaCa | the Data Transfer link in the portal? | [17:09] |
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up_the_irons | DaCa: email support@ and it'll be added | [17:27] |
phlux | I didn't know we could do that
I set up my own :P http://bryant.ewnix.net/vnstat | [17:36] |
up_the_irons | phlux: i like the nice text-based printout :) | [17:36] |
phlux | Thanks :D There are graphs on the "hours, days and months" links
But it still prints out a nice table | [17:37] |
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brycec | up_the_irons: Yeah I've duplicity'd up to it (it's just ssh/scp... didn't bother trying sftp) | [17:49] |
up_the_irons | phlux: cool
brycec: oh nice! | [17:51] |
brycec | (It would also do webdav and ftp_ | [17:51] |
DaCa | brycec: if you choose scp it will do parts in scp and parts in sftp, but you make it use sftp only which is a big advantage if you want to combine it with openssh's chrootdir and internal-sftp, you don't have to populate the chroot at all
s/make/can &/ | [18:00] |
brycec | kewl
brycec uses S3 for 99% of his duplicity backups | [18:03] |
up_the_irons | DaCa: ah, an empty chroot is pretty cool | [18:07] |
DaCa | I made some deals with some friends colocating at different places, we each provide backupspace for each other using ssh chrootdir/internal-sftp/duplicity, ultimate deal | [18:09] |
brycec | That's cool | [18:13] |
hazardous | anyone here tried glacier?
its apparently 0,01/gb | [18:14] |
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up_the_irons | DaCa: hah nice
hazardous: is that amazon's thing? | [18:15] |
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brycec | hazardous: I've got some data in glacier
Never retrieved it though (Used Amazon's S3 lifecycle stuff to migrate an S3 bucket of a decomissioned server into Glacier) | [18:19] |
hazardous | yeah it's amazon's thing up_the_irons
apparently for long term storage | [18:26] |
up_the_irons | ah ok | [18:26] |
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brycec | up_the_irons: Basically, it's tape library storage | [18:55] |
up_the_irons | brycec: yeah i gathered that | [18:56] |
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up_the_irons | nixbag: i believe thursday will be a data center day; i'm trying to get them to issue you a perm badge | [21:21] |
milki | oo, badge | [21:32] |
nixbag | sounds wonderful. probably easier than getting a temp badge :)
up_the_irons: switched to weechat. it chose the color pink for you. | [21:32] |
up_the_irons | lol | [21:37] |
brycec | It's okay up_the_irons, irssi/nickcolor.pl gave you blue. | [21:51] |
up_the_irons | phew | [21:52] |
nixbag | i miss irssi already. thinking of going back to it. | [21:52] |
brycec | lol | [21:53] |
nixbag | weechat looks like a text based circus | [21:53] |
brycec | I liked weechat. Just haven't had the time to get it all configgered up | [21:53] |
nixbag | up_the_irons: i should be available all day thursday. | [21:54] |
up_the_irons | nixbag: ok, i'll let u know if it comes to fruition
weechat *is* a text based circuis, that is why it rules and vertical split and the fact that my cursor is directly under the window upon which the text will appear had some embarassing "wrong window" lines go out in irssi | [21:54] |
nixbag | i'm giving weechat more time before i make any final judgements :) | [21:57] |
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