[00:13] *** HighJinx has quit IRC () [00:30] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:27] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [02:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [02:47] *** alexstanford19 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:48] *** alexstanford19 has joined #arpnetworks [05:04] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [05:05] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [06:56] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [07:24] *** andol has joined #arpnetworks [09:38] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:39] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [09:39] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [09:39] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [12:00] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [12:26] how long does it normally take for a new account to be setup? [12:30] 24hrs or less [12:30] i.e. within a day [13:07] *** HighJinx has quit IRC () [13:14] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [14:08] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [14:14] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.) [14:16] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [14:38] why does everyone tell me to traceroute 216.81.59.173? [14:39] mercutio: http://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/1875et/best_use_of_dns_routing_skillset_and_ccie/ [14:41] mercutio: Because the Reddit hivemind finds it interesting this week. [14:41] static: it's everywhere though [14:42] i've seen it what one .. two three four five places so far? [14:42] correct [14:42] then i scrolled back in here [14:42] it went viral [14:42] and someone had mentioned it [14:42] there is a IPv6 one too [14:42] traceroute6 -m 120 tng.prolixium.com [14:44] em0.dax.prolixium.net [14:44] that's repeated a lot [14:44] oh damn its down [14:44] it was working this morning [14:44] maybe they needed their ipv6 addrresses back [14:44] lol [14:47] mercutio: http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/188zpg/weve_all_seen_the_star_wars_episode_iv_traceroute/c8cuw4p [14:55] *** dr_jkl has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:55] *** dr_jkl has joined #arpnetworks [15:00] hmm [15:00] now i want something that shows different traceroutes to diff people [15:00] which would require doing it dynamically [15:00] and using ipv6 ;) [15:00] oh hmm, maybe you could do a reverse traceroute in the traceroute [15:00] and stick that in the dns' [15:01] you'd need some kind of trigger [15:02] and then to have the dns server delay giving responses until the traceroute had resolved that part [15:09] *** dr_jkl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:12] *** dr_jkl has joined #arpnetworks [15:13] *** HighJinx has quit IRC () [15:17] *** dr_jkl has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:17] *** dr_jkl has joined #arpnetworks [15:31] Why can't everyone just use Google? [15:31] they've got plenty of infrastructure [15:33] wut [15:33] As a ping and traceroute destination. [15:33] v4 and v6 alike [15:34] google don't stick location information in traceroutes [15:34] one name to remember... you're probably already typingit [15:34] have multiple data servers that traffic can randomly go to or through [15:34] like google seem to carry some traffic to the other side of the world :/ [15:34] well sydney to amsterdam or something [15:35] also google do weird stuff, like show a ping of 24 msec, but load everything off a server 150 msec away [15:35] for things like their search [15:35] and google dns [15:36] like if you run a dns server, and look at logs, google can query from much further away addresses than 8.8.8.8 [15:45] i would be very surprised if they originate queries from the ip addresses of their public dns servers [15:52] Here are the subnets from which Google Public DNS sends requests to authoritative nameservers, and their associated IATA airport codes: [15:52] 64.233.162.0/24 gru [15:52] 74.125.16.0/24 tpe [15:52] 74.125.17.0/24 bru [15:52] 74.125.18.16/29 ber [15:52] 74.125.18.80/29 lpp [15:52] 74.125.18.144/29 grq [15:52] 74.125.18.208/29 grq [15:52] etc [15:52] all listed on https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq [15:58] jlgaddis: yeh but i mean it's not even the same country [15:58] for me i think it's taiwan or hong kong or something [16:15] it's going to depend on the physical location of the client that the original request came from [16:16] for example, a client in taiwan using 8.8.8.8 is going to hit google's dns server in taiwan and so they're going to be querying your authoritative servers from taiwan [16:16] if i look at the query logs on my authoritative servers, i see lookups from all over the place (as expected) [16:17] yeh [16:17] but new zealand isn't near taiwan :/ [16:18] actually it's closer than los angeles [16:18] bizzare [16:18] ping is higher to there though [16:19] i guess i'm missing something... what does NZ have to do with anything? [16:19] it's where i am [16:19] maybe some people are closer to the dns servers requests are made from [16:19] NZ shall forever be the land of LOTR to me [16:19] heh [16:20] anyway the point was that google isn't necessarily a good reference with tracerouting etc [16:20] cos their setup is more complicated, and sometimes hidden [16:20] also anycasted yea [16:20] and also doesn't have location information easily availble [16:21] like you can lokup where the google dns stuff comes from [16:21] but geoip database isn't accurate, and reverse lookups aren't obvious [16:21] or non-existant [16:22] heh, google uses the city tied to my ARIN POC record as the "location" for ip addresses allocated to us [16:23] even though i live a good distance away from where they're actually being used [16:23] (my personal address/po box is what's listed in my poc record, not the address of the company) [16:27] hmm all google addresses say california [16:33] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:36] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:36] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:36] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [19:31] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:10] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [22:12] *** alexstanford19 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:12] *** alexstanford19 has joined #arpnetworks [22:31] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!)