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| FireTalon | how long does it normally take for a new account to be setup? | [12:26] | |
| brycec | 24hrs or less
i.e. within a day | [12:30] | |
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| mercutio | why does everyone tell me to traceroute 216.81.59.173? | [14:38] | |
| staticsafe | mercutio: http://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/1875et/best_use_of_dns_routing_skillset_and_ccie/ | [14:39] | |
| mike-burns | mercutio: Because the Reddit hivemind finds it interesting this week. | [14:41] | |
| mercutio | static: it's everywhere though
i've seen it what one .. two three four five places so far? | [14:41] | |
| staticsafe | correct | [14:42] | |
| mercutio | then i scrolled back in here | [14:42] | |
| staticsafe | it went viral | [14:42] | |
| mercutio | and someone had mentioned it | [14:42] | |
| staticsafe | there is a IPv6 one too
traceroute6 -m 120 tng.prolixium.com | [14:42] | |
| mercutio | em0.dax.prolixium.net
that's repeated a lot | [14:44] | |
| staticsafe | oh damn its down
it was working this morning | [14:44] | |
| mercutio | maybe they needed their ipv6 addrresses back | [14:44] | |
| staticsafe | lol
mercutio: http://www.reddit.com/r/ipv6/comments/188zpg/weve_all_seen_the_star_wars_episode_iv_traceroute/c8cuw4p | [14:44] | |
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| mercutio | hmm
now i want something that shows different traceroutes to diff people which would require doing it dynamically and using ipv6 ;) oh hmm, maybe you could do a reverse traceroute in the traceroute and stick that in the dns' you'd need some kind of trigger and then to have the dns server delay giving responses until the traceroute had resolved that part | [15:00] | |
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| brycec | Why can't everyone just use Google?
they've got plenty of infrastructure | [15:31] | |
| staticsafe | wut | [15:33] | |
| brycec | As a ping and traceroute destination.
v4 and v6 alike | [15:33] | |
| mercutio | google don't stick location information in traceroutes | [15:34] | |
| brycec | one name to remember... you're probably already typingit | [15:34] | |
| mercutio | have multiple data servers that traffic can randomly go to or through
like google seem to carry some traffic to the other side of the world :/ well sydney to amsterdam or something also google do weird stuff, like show a ping of 24 msec, but load everything off a server 150 msec away for things like their search and google dns like if you run a dns server, and look at logs, google can query from much further away addresses than 8.8.8.8 | [15:34] | |
| jlgaddis | i would be very surprised if they originate queries from the ip addresses of their public dns servers | [15:45] | |
| mnathani | Here are the subnets from which Google Public DNS sends requests to authoritative nameservers, and their associated IATA airport codes:
64.233.162.0/24 gru 74.125.16.0/24 tpe 74.125.17.0/24 bru 74.125.18.16/29 ber 74.125.18.80/29 lpp 74.125.18.144/29 grq 74.125.18.208/29 grq etc
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| mercutio | jlgaddis: yeh but i mean it's not even the same country
for me i think it's taiwan or hong kong or something | [15:58] | |
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| jlgaddis | it's going to depend on the physical location of the client that the original request came from
for example, a client in taiwan using 8.8.8.8 is going to hit google's dns server in taiwan and so they're going to be querying your authoritative servers from taiwan if i look at the query logs on my authoritative servers, i see lookups from all over the place (as expected) | [16:15] | |
| mercutio | yeh
but new zealand isn't near taiwan :/ actually it's closer than los angeles bizzare ping is higher to there though | [16:17] | |
| jlgaddis | i guess i'm missing something... what does NZ have to do with anything? | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | it's where i am
maybe some people are closer to the dns servers requests are made from | [16:19] | |
| staticsafe | NZ shall forever be the land of LOTR to me | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | heh
anyway the point was that google isn't necessarily a good reference with tracerouting etc cos their setup is more complicated, and sometimes hidden | [16:19] | |
| staticsafe | also anycasted yea | [16:20] | |
| mercutio | and also doesn't have location information easily availble
like you can lokup where the google dns stuff comes from but geoip database isn't accurate, and reverse lookups aren't obvious or non-existant | [16:20] | |
| jlgaddis | heh, google uses the city tied to my ARIN POC record as the "location" for ip addresses allocated to us
even though i live a good distance away from where they're actually being used (my personal address/po box is what's listed in my poc record, not the address of the company) | [16:22] | |
| mercutio | hmm all google addresses say california | [16:27] | |
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