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[00:28] <toddf> so I wonder if the switches/kvm networking/etc would support QinQ vlans (svlan(4) in OpenBSD, IEEE 802.1AD-compliant provider bridges) .. I can use point-to-point gif(4) interfaces to approximate this, but having separate networks from the main network interface makes firewall rules much easier and in some cases actually possible since it is a different interface
[00:32] <toddf> well, what I should say is, I just tested, and svlan(4) does not propogate to other vms
[00:32] <toddf> so its either explicitly blocked or something in the path doesn't support it
[00:33] <toddf> my question is, would it be detrimental in any way for arpnetworks to enable this functionality between vm's ?
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[01:36] <anisfarhana> boo!
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[12:05] <up_the_irons> toddf: it's probably the MTU
[12:06] <up_the_irons> toddf: if you want to go through a testing session, i can raise the MTU of various interfaces and see if / what makes a difference
[12:08] <toddf> I doubt a mtu would be the issue if I'm sending a simple icmp6 packet
[12:08] <toddf> I should try on the two newest kvm's from you just incase the 'newer' os makes any difference
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[12:39] <up_the_irons> toddf: i would really doubt the kvm version is the issue.  the networking is simply pass-thru.
[12:39] <up_the_irons> toddf: if it is stripping the vlan tag, because of MTU, that might be it
[12:39] <anisfarhana> Hi up_the_irons
[12:40] <up_the_irons> toddf: but yeah, with a smaller icmp6 frame, maybe not...
[12:40] <up_the_irons> Hi anisfarhana
[12:41] <anisfarhana> up_the_irons: I registered a new channel
[12:41] <anisfarhana> Called ##pothead
[12:41] <anisfarhana> Come if you want , anytime
[12:42] <up_the_irons> i'm in too many channels already
[12:42] <anisfarhana> up_the_irons: It is ok
[12:42] <anisfarhana> If only you wanna join
[12:42] <anisfarhana> up_the_irons: Bong sir?
[12:42] * anisfarhana hands her rolls to up_the_irons 
[12:43] <anisfarhana> Life is short.
[12:43] <anisfarhana> Enjoy it
[12:45] * up_the_irons would prefer a cigar
[12:45] <anisfarhana> I dom't smoke.
[12:45] <anisfarhana> Smoke is not good for your lungs.
[12:45] <up_the_irons> you don't inhale cigars
[12:45] <anisfarhana> The smoke from cigars.
[12:45] <anisfarhana> You don't inhale it?
[12:46] <up_the_irons> they are too alkaline
[12:46] <anisfarhana> Smoke it in little amount only.
[12:46] <anisfarhana> But
[12:46] <anisfarhana> Try weed.
[12:46] <up_the_irons> no, chemicals from the cigar are absorbed by your tongue and gums, not lungs
[12:46] <anisfarhana> Weed - no chemical.
[12:46] <anisfarhana> It can reduce your stress and depression too.
[12:46] <anisfarhana> And make your happy
[12:47] <anisfarhana> Like me now
[12:47] <phlux> lol wtf
[12:47] <up_the_irons> weed never did anything for me
[12:47] <anisfarhana> Like seriously?
[12:47] <up_the_irons> give me a good cuban, and now we're talkin'!
[12:47] <anisfarhana> I asked my friend to make it for me.
[12:47] <phlux> "I just smoke weed. I don't smoke." is like saying "I love heroin, but I ain't touchin no cigarette, that shit'll kill you!"
[12:48] * up_the_irons grabs some coffee
[12:48] <anisfarhana> Ha ha ha
[12:48] <anisfarhana> phlux: hi
[12:48] <anisfarhana> phlux: I love that quotes.
[12:49] <CaZe> Well, you don't need to smoke marijuana to ingest it.
[12:49] <anisfarhana> I stop taking it long time ago
[12:50] <anisfarhana> And now i started smoke it again
[12:50] <CaZe> You could just cook it in oil.
[12:53] <anisfarhana> Cook what?
[12:54] <CaZe> marijuana
[12:54] <CaZe> If you are so worried about smoke.
[13:16] <anisfarhana> Eat it?
[13:19] <qbit> CaZe++
[13:20] <qbit> also there are like 300 studies showing that people that smoke weed have lower rates of lung cancer ( even people that smoke weed AND cigs )
[13:20] <brycec> I hate smoking, would rather vapourize
[13:20] <qbit> also - dunhill early morning is my new fav pipe bacci!
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[13:48] <up_the_irons> qbit: yes, many studies show that people who are stressed are much more suseptible to lung cancer.  it almost shows that smokers who live low stress lives never get cancer.
[13:49] <qbit> rad
[13:49] <qbit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUM8m2rnP0
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[13:58] <anisfarhana> up_the_irons: Can i recommend you a song?
[14:44] <up_the_irons> are short ads better? http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1236055
[14:44] <up_the_irons> heh, we'll see!
[15:07] <anisfarhana> I think i am back to normal.
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[17:20] <CaZe> Oh good, because you were so high awhile ago.
[17:21] <up_the_irons> lol
[17:21] <up_the_irons> truth
[18:10] <up_the_irons> who wants to test out some backup space? (chroot shell with stuff like tar, dd, cpio, rsync, gzip, bzip2, etc...)
[18:11] <up_the_irons> sftp too
[18:11] <up_the_irons> scp
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[19:47] <brycec> up_the_irons: I would!
[20:48] <toddf> up_the_irons: count me in!
[20:48] <toddf> want a support@ email or ?
[20:49] <toddf> (and not that its the same, especially because it uses bandwidth, but..) cyphertite.com just changed their data plans .. 8gb = free, unlimited for 'personal use' = $10/mo, corp = $.10/gb/mo on their encrypted deduplicated storage
[20:52] <brycec> Oh very cool
[20:52] <brycec> i wonder if cyphertite's on ipv6...
[20:52] <brycec> cyphertite.com gives me a AAAA ;)
[20:54] <brycec> (Man, their site has come a long way since I last tried it out)
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[21:30] <toddf> yes they serve www via IPv6 and can even ship your backups via IPv6 (oh wait, that means no bandwidth bill here.. sssh!)
[21:31] <brycec> ssssh
[21:32] <brycec> (this was my point ;P)
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[22:27] * milki doesnt know how/what to backup at all
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[22:40] <brycec> alias ALLTHETHINGS=/
[22:40] <brycec> :p
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